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<p>[QUOTE="KBBPLL, post: 26507029, member: 104064"]I think I kind of get what you're saying now, but I don't think there was any separate design that could have been doubled. The "regular B" didn't occur in any other year. But as you say, the B might have been damaged by subsequent pressings of the usual beer belly B being slightly offset. I don't have a good explanation for what caused the slight "Longacre doubling" seen on some proof examples, but it appears to me that the "regular B" letters have filled in those areas. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is an image of a 1908, 1909 UNC broken B, 1909 proof broken B, and 1909 proof regular B. I'm sorry I didn't get the last image quite the same size. If you zoom in, you can see that there's a "ghost" image on the proof broken B (3rd image) for example at the upper left corners of E and R. On the regular B (4th image), this has become a knob at those corners. You can see this also on the L, the strongly struck portion of which is the same as the 1908 L, and the "ghost" becomes the regular B version, where the lower right tip is more squared off instead of curved. So I don't know what caused this, but as I said above I think this dated master hub was just re-engraved to produce the regular B. I don't believe there was ever any overall master design with the regular B.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1689658[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I enjoy speculating about this stuff and getting other opinions. I don't know when the proof coins were struck but I think it was standard practice to do a run of circulation coins before the proofs.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="KBBPLL, post: 26507029, member: 104064"]I think I kind of get what you're saying now, but I don't think there was any separate design that could have been doubled. The "regular B" didn't occur in any other year. But as you say, the B might have been damaged by subsequent pressings of the usual beer belly B being slightly offset. I don't have a good explanation for what caused the slight "Longacre doubling" seen on some proof examples, but it appears to me that the "regular B" letters have filled in those areas. Here is an image of a 1908, 1909 UNC broken B, 1909 proof broken B, and 1909 proof regular B. I'm sorry I didn't get the last image quite the same size. If you zoom in, you can see that there's a "ghost" image on the proof broken B (3rd image) for example at the upper left corners of E and R. On the regular B (4th image), this has become a knob at those corners. You can see this also on the L, the strongly struck portion of which is the same as the 1908 L, and the "ghost" becomes the regular B version, where the lower right tip is more squared off instead of curved. So I don't know what caused this, but as I said above I think this dated master hub was just re-engraved to produce the regular B. I don't believe there was ever any overall master design with the regular B. [ATTACH=full]1689658[/ATTACH] I enjoy speculating about this stuff and getting other opinions. I don't know when the proof coins were struck but I think it was standard practice to do a run of circulation coins before the proofs.[/QUOTE]
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