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<p>[QUOTE="messydesk, post: 26506969, member: 1765"]The thing that got me started with design hub doubling is actually the I in LIBERTY, specifically the slant of the bottom edge of the base. The proof coin on the bottom right shows a smaller, slenderer I with the base sloping down and to the right within a large I with a more level, but jagged base. This is the appearance I would expect if an undated, unfinished 1908 die were to be re-hubbed with the 1909 hub, which is the only way to get the date on that otherwise perfectly usable die. I guess if there were dated 1909 working hubs with both designs, it wouldn't have to be an unfinished 1908 die. The upper loops of the B wouldn't line up correctly, leaving the broken B appearance. The inside of the upper loop, being raised on the hub, would flatten part of the existing upper loop (raised on the die) of the beer belly B, depending on how many hubbings were in the die already from that hub and how many were given with the other hub.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do we know when the 1909 proof nickels were made? Given the relatively high mintage, I assume it was in at least two batches, one to go along with the proof sets being ordered at the beginning of the year with Indian cents, and again to fill orders after the Lincoln cent was struck.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="messydesk, post: 26506969, member: 1765"]The thing that got me started with design hub doubling is actually the I in LIBERTY, specifically the slant of the bottom edge of the base. The proof coin on the bottom right shows a smaller, slenderer I with the base sloping down and to the right within a large I with a more level, but jagged base. This is the appearance I would expect if an undated, unfinished 1908 die were to be re-hubbed with the 1909 hub, which is the only way to get the date on that otherwise perfectly usable die. I guess if there were dated 1909 working hubs with both designs, it wouldn't have to be an unfinished 1908 die. The upper loops of the B wouldn't line up correctly, leaving the broken B appearance. The inside of the upper loop, being raised on the hub, would flatten part of the existing upper loop (raised on the die) of the beer belly B, depending on how many hubbings were in the die already from that hub and how many were given with the other hub. Do we know when the 1909 proof nickels were made? Given the relatively high mintage, I assume it was in at least two batches, one to go along with the proof sets being ordered at the beginning of the year with Indian cents, and again to fill orders after the Lincoln cent was struck.[/QUOTE]
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