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<p>[QUOTE="John Conduitt, post: 7961403, member: 109923"]Yes, it looks like a continental imitation from the mid-300s, when there a lot of Constantinian imitations in Britain too.</p><p><br /></p><p>I’m pretty sure bronzes were not used in Britain as late as 410, or even before the Romans left. The hoard evidence from 388-410 is of silver siliquae (and a lot of them). Hoxne, for example, was deposited after 407 and contained 14,865 coins - 569 gold, 14,272 silver and 24 bronze. I think the silver was used a while after that, but not the bronze.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I also don’t think the first Anglo-Saxon coins were descended from British designs. Coins had probably been replaced by silver ingots by the 500s, so there wasn’t any continuity. Vanimundus, one of the earliest named English moneyers in the 650s, took his name from copying Merovingian coinage. Thrymsas, the first Anglo-Saxon coins, were gold, and are supposed to have copied continental gold issues.</p><p><br /></p><p>Presumably, with their Christian imagery, these were based on later designs than the Constantinian bronzes. But the crested helmets and ‘Crispus’ legend on the English coins suggest either the bronze was still to be found somewhere or it inspired continental imitations all the way up to the 600s. Merovingian tremisses don’t have crested helmets, they have diadems. So somehow, indirectly, the bronzes may have been one of several inspirations for English sceattas.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Conduitt, post: 7961403, member: 109923"]Yes, it looks like a continental imitation from the mid-300s, when there a lot of Constantinian imitations in Britain too. I’m pretty sure bronzes were not used in Britain as late as 410, or even before the Romans left. The hoard evidence from 388-410 is of silver siliquae (and a lot of them). Hoxne, for example, was deposited after 407 and contained 14,865 coins - 569 gold, 14,272 silver and 24 bronze. I think the silver was used a while after that, but not the bronze. But I also don’t think the first Anglo-Saxon coins were descended from British designs. Coins had probably been replaced by silver ingots by the 500s, so there wasn’t any continuity. Vanimundus, one of the earliest named English moneyers in the 650s, took his name from copying Merovingian coinage. Thrymsas, the first Anglo-Saxon coins, were gold, and are supposed to have copied continental gold issues. Presumably, with their Christian imagery, these were based on later designs than the Constantinian bronzes. But the crested helmets and ‘Crispus’ legend on the English coins suggest either the bronze was still to be found somewhere or it inspired continental imitations all the way up to the 600s. Merovingian tremisses don’t have crested helmets, they have diadems. So somehow, indirectly, the bronzes may have been one of several inspirations for English sceattas.[/QUOTE]
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