Bank note grading question

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by walleye710, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. walleye710

    walleye710 Member

    Can a bank note with 3 folds one of which I'd call prominent still grade XF or perhaps better? I have a national bank note series 1882 brown back that is pretty nice except for the folds. The paper quality is very good-still crisp, the color is very good, no holes, no tears, good signatures. The bottom margin was cut short but the corners are intact with no edge wear. It is a Winona MN bank $5 which I think had a fairly high census.
     
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  3. walleye710

    walleye710 Member

    The mark that appears on the reverse is the shadow of my phone. There are no marks on this note.
     

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  4. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    With the right margin not being parallel to the print, the close trim at the bottom, and the perfectly square corners on a worn note make me suspect that this note has been trimmed. I do believe this note would grade low XF based on the wear.
     
  5. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    It appears to be a wallet piece. Folded twice and shown off often. Could you furnish a photo of the note with side lighting ?

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  6. walleye710

    walleye710 Member

    After doing this I can see a couple more old folds in it.
     

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  8. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Thanks for the additional photo @walleye710 .
    It appears to be an extremely nice VF.
     
  9. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    would say VF-35 if it was professionally graded; nice note ;)
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    In my opinion this would not be an XF note. It is nice in several respects but it won’t grade extra fine. I do believe it is a definite Fine nope and may even pass as a very fine note. The difference would be in how serious the folds are and if it was folded and carried as a pocket piece. Also if the note has residue from the wallet. It’s a nice looking Note.
     
  11. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I will say this its hard to judge a note not being in hand so opinions are objective
    at the very best, I literally have hundreds of graded MPC, and one note can be the
    same as the other but get a completely different grade, especially if you cross
    grad notes, they dont always come back the same.
     
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