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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2118004, member: 19463"]The cheese is getting more binding. You first photo showed the ticket for G-N sale 29 lot 450:</p><p><a href="https://www.pecunem.com/auction-29/lot-450" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pecunem.com/auction-29/lot-450" rel="nofollow">https://www.pecunem.com/auction-29/lot-450</a></p><p>This is a 15mm AE weighing 2.76g</p><p>The photo clearly shows the same type you have but I do not see the same specimen. Yours is better. Their listing:</p><p><br /></p><p>PHRYGIA. Laodicea. <span style="color: #ff0080"><b>Augustus</b></span> (27 BC-14 AD). Ae. Anto Polemon Philopatris, magistrate. </p><p><br /></p><p>Obv: ΓΑΙΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡ. </p><p>Bare head of <b><span style="color: #ff0080">Gaius Caesar</span></b> right.</p><p>Rev: ΛΑΟΔΙΚΕΩΝ. </p><p>Eagle standing right, head left, between two monograms.</p><p><br /></p><p>RPC I 2900. </p><p><br /></p><p>Condition: Very fine.</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight: 2.76 g.</p><p>Diameter: 15 mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>The G-N listing seems to be pointing out that Augustus issued the coin in the name of his grandson Gaius but the program that prints out their tickets only grabbed the Augustus ID and not the obverse description. They did not misidentify the coin but they do show really poor computer ticket skills. </p><p><br /></p><p>See if you can find<b> Ancient Bronze Coins of Asia Minor and the Levant from the Lindgren Collection</b> by Henry Clay Lindgren and Frank L, Kovacs, 1985. coin 990A page 52 lists:</p><p>2.77 ΓΑΙΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡ Bare hd. of <span style="color: #ff0080"><b>Caligula</b></span>. r. Rv. (ΛΑ)ΟΔΙΚΕ(ΩΝ) Eagle facing r., wings spread, hd. reverted; monogram 1 in field l.; monogram 2 in field r. BMC 154</p><p><br /></p><p>At the bottom of the page he provides drawings of the two monograms as on your coin. Plate 34 990A illustrates a coin with reverse centered low on the flan losing two letters on each end as indicated by the parentheses in the description. Your coin is easily twice as desirable as the Lindgren plate coin or the G-N illustrated coin. These are not from the same dies. (I'm less than positive about this on the Lindgren coin because the photo is small and screened.)</p><p><br /></p><p>I suspect that Lindgren copied his Caligula ID from BMC (need to find that - it is online) but that it was corrected in RPC to Gaius. It would be good to find an RPC I to read what they have to say on the matter. Someone decided BMC was wrong (perfectly possible) but I might expect RPC to comment on this if it were their call. </p><p><br /></p><p>I can not get over the weight of the Lindgren coin being .01 g off the listed weight of the G-N coin. What is the weight of the coin you have? Scale flutter .01g so I'd be surprised if the tolerances of a tiny bronze would be that tight. In any event, the coin you got was not the coin G-N sold but a secondary back up lot offered after the sale to an underbidder would not have been better than the illustrated lot and I have no reason to believe that G-N does this sort of 'second chance' lots. I could see someone buying an upgrade coin in the auction and then selling their old example in the G-N ticket but one would expect them to keep the better coin rather than the lesser. </p><p><br /></p><p>I assume someone will now post a cartoon hero saying, "Veeeawy Intwisting."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2118004, member: 19463"]The cheese is getting more binding. You first photo showed the ticket for G-N sale 29 lot 450: [url]https://www.pecunem.com/auction-29/lot-450[/url] This is a 15mm AE weighing 2.76g The photo clearly shows the same type you have but I do not see the same specimen. Yours is better. Their listing: PHRYGIA. Laodicea. [COLOR=#ff0080][B]Augustus[/B][/COLOR] (27 BC-14 AD). Ae. Anto Polemon Philopatris, magistrate. Obv: ΓΑΙΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡ. Bare head of [B][COLOR=#ff0080]Gaius Caesar[/COLOR][/B] right. Rev: ΛΑΟΔΙΚΕΩΝ. Eagle standing right, head left, between two monograms. RPC I 2900. Condition: Very fine. Weight: 2.76 g. Diameter: 15 mm. The G-N listing seems to be pointing out that Augustus issued the coin in the name of his grandson Gaius but the program that prints out their tickets only grabbed the Augustus ID and not the obverse description. They did not misidentify the coin but they do show really poor computer ticket skills. See if you can find[B] Ancient Bronze Coins of Asia Minor and the Levant from the Lindgren Collection[/B] by Henry Clay Lindgren and Frank L, Kovacs, 1985. coin 990A page 52 lists: 2.77 ΓΑΙΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡ Bare hd. of [COLOR=#ff0080][B]Caligula[/B][/COLOR]. r. Rv. (ΛΑ)ΟΔΙΚΕ(ΩΝ) Eagle facing r., wings spread, hd. reverted; monogram 1 in field l.; monogram 2 in field r. BMC 154 At the bottom of the page he provides drawings of the two monograms as on your coin. Plate 34 990A illustrates a coin with reverse centered low on the flan losing two letters on each end as indicated by the parentheses in the description. Your coin is easily twice as desirable as the Lindgren plate coin or the G-N illustrated coin. These are not from the same dies. (I'm less than positive about this on the Lindgren coin because the photo is small and screened.) I suspect that Lindgren copied his Caligula ID from BMC (need to find that - it is online) but that it was corrected in RPC to Gaius. It would be good to find an RPC I to read what they have to say on the matter. Someone decided BMC was wrong (perfectly possible) but I might expect RPC to comment on this if it were their call. I can not get over the weight of the Lindgren coin being .01 g off the listed weight of the G-N coin. What is the weight of the coin you have? Scale flutter .01g so I'd be surprised if the tolerances of a tiny bronze would be that tight. In any event, the coin you got was not the coin G-N sold but a secondary back up lot offered after the sale to an underbidder would not have been better than the illustrated lot and I have no reason to believe that G-N does this sort of 'second chance' lots. I could see someone buying an upgrade coin in the auction and then selling their old example in the G-N ticket but one would expect them to keep the better coin rather than the lesser. I assume someone will now post a cartoon hero saying, "Veeeawy Intwisting."[/QUOTE]
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