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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4799122, member: 39084"]I wouldn't characterize the differences of opinion that are being expressed in this thread as testy, but they <i>are</i> substantive rather than just semantic. For example, I agree with Carausius:</p><p><br /></p><p>and it wouldn't bother me in the least if Frank Robinson won all 132 lots on which he wanted to bid at the Baldwin's-St. James auction. </p><p><br /></p><p>Every coin I acquire, whether at an auction or a direct purchase, is subject to my own personal budgetary constraints. At an auction, it doesn't matter to me whether I'm outbid by a dealer or a collector bidding for his own collection. If a dealer wins it, I certainly won't be going to him/her to buy it afterward, since I couldn't justify the hammer price let alone the subsequent dealer markup. So the fact that a dealer, rather than another collector, won the coin makes no difference.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also think that, except for the occasional bidding war and other unusual circumstances, you'll find more "bargains" at auctions since dealers need to allow room for a retail markup if they win a coin, and it's more likely than not that their budget for a particular coin is lower than mine. So I personally welcome dealers who are bidding on coins for their inventory at an auction.</p><p><br /></p><p>I sense that part of your perspective might be that, at an auction, a collector <i>might</i> pay a lower hammer price if dealers weren't bidding for their inventory. It's not possible to know whether or not this is true, since there isn't any statistical data that supports or refutes this idea, but logically/inferentially I don't think collectors would pay lower prices for coins if dealers were banned from bidding on coins for their inventory.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4799122, member: 39084"]I wouldn't characterize the differences of opinion that are being expressed in this thread as testy, but they [I]are[/I] substantive rather than just semantic. For example, I agree with Carausius: and it wouldn't bother me in the least if Frank Robinson won all 132 lots on which he wanted to bid at the Baldwin's-St. James auction. Every coin I acquire, whether at an auction or a direct purchase, is subject to my own personal budgetary constraints. At an auction, it doesn't matter to me whether I'm outbid by a dealer or a collector bidding for his own collection. If a dealer wins it, I certainly won't be going to him/her to buy it afterward, since I couldn't justify the hammer price let alone the subsequent dealer markup. So the fact that a dealer, rather than another collector, won the coin makes no difference. I also think that, except for the occasional bidding war and other unusual circumstances, you'll find more "bargains" at auctions since dealers need to allow room for a retail markup if they win a coin, and it's more likely than not that their budget for a particular coin is lower than mine. So I personally welcome dealers who are bidding on coins for their inventory at an auction. I sense that part of your perspective might be that, at an auction, a collector [I]might[/I] pay a lower hammer price if dealers weren't bidding for their inventory. It's not possible to know whether or not this is true, since there isn't any statistical data that supports or refutes this idea, but logically/inferentially I don't think collectors would pay lower prices for coins if dealers were banned from bidding on coins for their inventory.[/QUOTE]
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