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<p>[QUOTE="lilbyrdie, post: 840518, member: 24183"]Hello,</p><p><br /></p><p>I've checked a few threads on scale accuracy, but can't find a whole lot of specifics on this. </p><p><br /></p><p>I recently got a scale that claims 0.01g accuracy. I figured a low-cost scale claiming that accuracy should, at least, be slightly better than a 0.1g accuracy scale. So, to test, I took a pile of the 2010 Native American $1 coins (via the direct ship program from the US mint). The US mint lists these coins as being 8.1 grams each. Yet, on this shiny new scale, 10 of them weight 80.0x grams (x changes a little based on which ten). A single one almost always weights in at 8.01g. To compare, I took one of our food scales -- accurate to, at best, 0.1g -- and weighed 10 and 20 coins. Still, it comes out to 8.0 grams each, not the expected 8.1g.</p><p><br /></p><p>20 nickels typically comes out at around 99.98 grams on the "better" scale and 100 even on the food scale. This is far closer to what I'd expected as far as accuracy and tolerance goes.</p><p><br /></p><p>8.0 grams vs 8.1 grams is a difference of just 1.2%, but I don't seem to have any examples that are different and the readings are consistent regardless of the number of coins or which coins. I would have expected that coins to be a range, but average to the listed weight. </p><p><br /></p><p>1. The source of the weight specification I'm getting is from the US mint (<a href="http://usmint.gov/about_the_mint/?action=coin_specifications" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://usmint.gov/about_the_mint/?action=coin_specifications" rel="nofollow">http://usmint.gov/about_the_mint/?action=coin_specifications</a>) and other sites say the same. However, none of them list acceptable tolerance or variance. Where do I find this information? How about for old coins and world coins?</p><p><br /></p><p>2. If I'm weighing for a first pass at authenticity testing, what accuracy should I be looking for? I'd assumed more than +/- 0.05g off would be an obvious indicator, since most coins are published to at least thousandths of a gram accuracy or more, and any fake trying to be really tricky would hit the numbers precisely. But, the dollars from the mint are even farther off... If a couple tenths of a gram variance is expected, then I can see why most people use 0.1g scales. But, then, I also don't see the point in publishing numbers of such higher accuracy, such as 2.2268g for a dime, especially if it could actually weigh 2.3 or 2.1g (and, besides, the loss of getting a few fakes would, for most people, be less than the cost of a scale that can accurately read to 0.0001g).</p><p><br /></p><p>3. How can a calibration weight be trusted any better than the scale itself?</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for any helpful info and insight![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lilbyrdie, post: 840518, member: 24183"]Hello, I've checked a few threads on scale accuracy, but can't find a whole lot of specifics on this. I recently got a scale that claims 0.01g accuracy. I figured a low-cost scale claiming that accuracy should, at least, be slightly better than a 0.1g accuracy scale. So, to test, I took a pile of the 2010 Native American $1 coins (via the direct ship program from the US mint). The US mint lists these coins as being 8.1 grams each. Yet, on this shiny new scale, 10 of them weight 80.0x grams (x changes a little based on which ten). A single one almost always weights in at 8.01g. To compare, I took one of our food scales -- accurate to, at best, 0.1g -- and weighed 10 and 20 coins. Still, it comes out to 8.0 grams each, not the expected 8.1g. 20 nickels typically comes out at around 99.98 grams on the "better" scale and 100 even on the food scale. This is far closer to what I'd expected as far as accuracy and tolerance goes. 8.0 grams vs 8.1 grams is a difference of just 1.2%, but I don't seem to have any examples that are different and the readings are consistent regardless of the number of coins or which coins. I would have expected that coins to be a range, but average to the listed weight. 1. The source of the weight specification I'm getting is from the US mint ([url]http://usmint.gov/about_the_mint/?action=coin_specifications[/url]) and other sites say the same. However, none of them list acceptable tolerance or variance. Where do I find this information? How about for old coins and world coins? 2. If I'm weighing for a first pass at authenticity testing, what accuracy should I be looking for? I'd assumed more than +/- 0.05g off would be an obvious indicator, since most coins are published to at least thousandths of a gram accuracy or more, and any fake trying to be really tricky would hit the numbers precisely. But, the dollars from the mint are even farther off... If a couple tenths of a gram variance is expected, then I can see why most people use 0.1g scales. But, then, I also don't see the point in publishing numbers of such higher accuracy, such as 2.2268g for a dime, especially if it could actually weigh 2.3 or 2.1g (and, besides, the loss of getting a few fakes would, for most people, be less than the cost of a scale that can accurately read to 0.0001g). 3. How can a calibration weight be trusted any better than the scale itself? Thanks for any helpful info and insight![/QUOTE]
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