Bad Form? Counterfeit 1916-D In Album

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Randy Abercrombie, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I have a well done 1916-D Merc that is counterfeit. I also have a genuine 1916-D slabbed in my safe. I plugged the hole in my Merc book with the counterfeit piece. I have no intent whatsoever of misleading anyone. I am quite the opposite sort of person. But if I depart this party tomorrow, my family will disperse my collection and now I am thinking that may lead a buyer to believe the coins my family is selling may be bogus. And if I leave the hole empty in the book, my ADD will go nuts..... Why do I make myself crazy with these kinds of thoughts????
     
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  3. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Supporter! Supporter

    Just write "counterfeit hole-filler" on the album under the fake.
     
  4. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    stamp "copy" on the reverse, then you'll know for sure that it will never be sold as genuine...
     
  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Tape a note into the album explaining that the hole is occupied by a counterfeit simply to indicate completion of the series, and that it represents the real coin in your SDB.
     
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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Permanently marking the counterfeit itself is best.

    Permanently marking the album just ruins the album, and does no good; someone with ill intent would buy a new album and move everything there, or more likely sell off the fake individually.
     
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  7. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    How about one in a genuine TPG holder? Ohio_S-158.jpg
     
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  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I like how they added the word “genuine” to the label. Gives it that hint of authenticity.
     
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  9. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Agree with post #4. It doesn't ruin the album, it safeguards it.
    And in regards to the hijack, why do you want counterfeit coins in slabs?
    To embarrass the companies? What do you get out of it when you tell them they graded/ slabbed a counterfeit as real? Why pay the grading costs? TY
     
  10. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Wasn't meant as a "hijack" unless that is a greeting to me. I thought the topic was the proper way to mark a counterfeit, and my slabbed example is in an album as well.

    Purchased many of them in the slabs; the point is how deceptive these are even to paid professionals, and collectors need to be diligent and know what they are collecting in my opinion, not just buy TPG's opinions. TPG's need to be informed of the threat as well- hopefully adds to their diligence. One of the main benefits of the slabs in my opinion is the guarantee of authenticity if you discover you have purchased a fake in a holder.

    The information is being shared through on-line venues like Coin Week in an effort to get the word out.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
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  11. 3030

    3030 New Member

    The company (not companies as only one slab is pictured) should be embarrassed about the fake slabbed as genuine. I would like to give you a THANK YOU for posting that. I know, buy the coin-not the slab. This a good reminder. To the OP-ultimately the album is yours so do what feels right to you. Holes drove me crasy so I just popped a 16 P in mine
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2018
  12. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Pull your pants down and 'crack a smile' at the fools to be........
     
  13. 3030

    3030 New Member

    ROFL! If that comment is for me,I was told years ago to avoid old men wearing bags on their heads who expose themselves. I do suspect that when you bend over (since you brought it up) the only thing one would see is a crack. Thanks for the laugh
     
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  14. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Thanks 3030; these 3 are all fakes in slabs.

    3-TPG's.jpg
     
  15. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    I think if you collected mercs with the blue Whitman album, the 1916D space was covered with the word “rare”
     
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  16. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Why arent they marked as counterfeits?
     
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  17. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    0123181738_HDR.jpg I have 2 Henning nickels that ICG slabbed, but the holder says "Counterfeit: Henning Issue" on them with a bright yellow label with the word "fake" in different languages . I paid for the slabbing because these go for anywhere between $50-$100 each. They are a part of history as it was done by a known counterfeiter who passed them off into circulation; not done by some unknown Chinese counterfeiting ring who mainly do rare and valuable specimens to fool collectors.
     
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  18. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    This is an older Whitman album with a window so you are able to view both sides of the piece.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2018
  19. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Because the TPG's didn't know they are counterfeit.
     
  20. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Well that leads me to a question. The 1798 cent is marked PCGS Genuine. I have not seen a slabbed piece marked “genuine” before. My assumption was the slab itself had been faked. Does PCGS mark pieces “genuine”?
     
  21. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Yes. s-260-ds.jpg
     
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