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<p>[QUOTE="telephoto1, post: 1744179, member: 9443"]First off, let's look at what happened...first, we have this:</p><p><i>'"Then a guy walked up behind me and said to the dealer, "Hey, Joe (not his name). Do you have any counterfeit type coins?" The dealer turned his attention to this guy and said, "Yeah! I have this great XXXXX. You wanna see it?" And he picked up the altered coin and started to hand it to the guy. HELLO!! I thought you were dealing with me. The dealer looked at me and said, "You mind if I show this coin to him?" I sat back in the chair and said, "I thought we were discussing the coin but do whatever you want." He put the coin down and told the guy he would get with him in a minute. (But the guy kept hanging around.) GEEESH!! "</i></p><p><br /></p><p>What I see here is...you haven't made any other offer on the coin yet, so as far as he knows you're just a lookie-lou... he politely asks you if it's OK to show the other guy the coin and when you get your nose out of joint, he still waits... even though it's his coin and he can do with it what he wishes. So I guess I am having a problem seeing the dealer as a bad guy here. I do agree that the other guy could have just waited his turn, but many dealers multi-task at shows and the other guy had no clue that you were looking at one of the things he potentially had an interest in...so I guess I don't really look at him as a bad guy here either.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let's look at what happens next...</p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>"So the dealer turned his attention back to me (at least partially) and I explained that melt on the $2 1/2 is $180 and it is not an especially good counterfeit but I would be interested at $225 (which I think is more than it is worth but I liked it). He said he wouldn't take less than $250 so I put the coin down and picked up the altered coin (with the other guy still lingering around) and told him that I would pay $100. $325 for the pair. He thought about it and came back with $390. I thanked him and told him my offer of $325 stands and I would let him think about it and return later. </i></p><p><i> </i></p><p><i>So a couple of hours later I returned to his table with money in hand. ($335. I decided I could go another $10 higher but that was my limit.) I said, "Let's talk about those coins." He said, "What coins was that?" Come on! So I told him. He said, "I sold the altered coin for <u>substantially</u> more than you offered." OK. Good for you. So I counted out $225 and said, "I'm willing to give you $225 for the $2 1/2." He thought about it and said he could go $235. I again offered $225 and he declined. I thanked him and before I left I said, "Next time I see you I may be your student."</i> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>OK...so now, you negotiate unsuccessfully and leave after essentially telling him his piece is just scrap and not that great- but you'll bail him out at $XXX. Then you come back 2 hours later. If I'm him I'd be thinking...Oh great, lookie lou is back. Then you peel off bills, like that's supposed to impress him. If I'm him I'd have held to my number as well...considering the time spent (in his eyes, time wasted)...and the fact that he's come down quite a bit already. So I'm thinking that your attempt to chisel another $10 was where he drew the line.</p><p><br /></p><p>JHMO as a 30 year dealer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="telephoto1, post: 1744179, member: 9443"]First off, let's look at what happened...first, we have this: [B][/B][I]'"Then a guy walked up behind me and said to the dealer, "Hey, Joe (not his name). Do you have any counterfeit type coins?" The dealer turned his attention to this guy and said, "Yeah! I have this great XXXXX. You wanna see it?" And he picked up the altered coin and started to hand it to the guy. HELLO!! I thought you were dealing with me. The dealer looked at me and said, "You mind if I show this coin to him?" I sat back in the chair and said, "I thought we were discussing the coin but do whatever you want." He put the coin down and told the guy he would get with him in a minute. (But the guy kept hanging around.) GEEESH!! "[/I][B][/B] What I see here is...you haven't made any other offer on the coin yet, so as far as he knows you're just a lookie-lou... he politely asks you if it's OK to show the other guy the coin and when you get your nose out of joint, he still waits... even though it's his coin and he can do with it what he wishes. So I guess I am having a problem seeing the dealer as a bad guy here. I do agree that the other guy could have just waited his turn, but many dealers multi-task at shows and the other guy had no clue that you were looking at one of the things he potentially had an interest in...so I guess I don't really look at him as a bad guy here either. Let's look at what happens next... [I] "So the dealer turned his attention back to me (at least partially) and I explained that melt on the $2 1/2 is $180 and it is not an especially good counterfeit but I would be interested at $225 (which I think is more than it is worth but I liked it). He said he wouldn't take less than $250 so I put the coin down and picked up the altered coin (with the other guy still lingering around) and told him that I would pay $100. $325 for the pair. He thought about it and came back with $390. I thanked him and told him my offer of $325 stands and I would let him think about it and return later. So a couple of hours later I returned to his table with money in hand. ($335. I decided I could go another $10 higher but that was my limit.) I said, "Let's talk about those coins." He said, "What coins was that?" Come on! So I told him. He said, "I sold the altered coin for [U]substantially[/U] more than you offered." OK. Good for you. So I counted out $225 and said, "I'm willing to give you $225 for the $2 1/2." He thought about it and said he could go $235. I again offered $225 and he declined. I thanked him and before I left I said, "Next time I see you I may be your student."[/I] OK...so now, you negotiate unsuccessfully and leave after essentially telling him his piece is just scrap and not that great- but you'll bail him out at $XXX. Then you come back 2 hours later. If I'm him I'd be thinking...Oh great, lookie lou is back. Then you peel off bills, like that's supposed to impress him. If I'm him I'd have held to my number as well...considering the time spent (in his eyes, time wasted)...and the fact that he's come down quite a bit already. So I'm thinking that your attempt to chisel another $10 was where he drew the line. JHMO as a 30 year dealer.[/QUOTE]
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