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Message:: [QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2610859, member: 36230"]Like CBD, I don't refer to them as counterfeit either. I prefer "copy" as that's exactly what he's doing - copying the designs, not by the talent in his own hands (as your hobo nickel example), but uses modern technology to do so. However, and particularly in the case of fantasy pieces, if a convenient choice of planchet material is all that separates the "art" from the frauds, what does that really tell you? Isn't it odd that the only way a copy can be an acceptable "fantasy" piece is if it exactly fits what Carr is doing, and any that do not are worthy of both Mr. Carr's and his fan's outright contempt? Do you not find it at least highly questionable that he claims the "date" as his "signature" yet turns around and says he claims no ownership of said dates? What would you think if you learned that Mr. Carr himself publicly stated his belief that another producer's dies are illegal based upon the very same code he immediately dismisses when applied to his? I realize you're new to these discussions, but there are plenty of perfectly legitimate questions, both morally and legally, that one must answer for themselves. If you view them as "art", I certainly respect that even if I personally disagree.[/QUOTE]