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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2609771, member: 28107&quot;]Hmm... Let&#039;s look at the untruths.</p><p><br /></p><p>(1)&nbsp; <i>There is a completely new HPA that displaced all of the previous provisions and case law.</i>&nbsp; (Actually, the HPA was strengthened to apply to those that help violators.&nbsp; None of the added provisions in any way affect the law as applied to Carr for the production of his pieces.&nbsp; None of the other provisions have changed).</p><p><br /></p><p>(2) <i>The counterfeiting laws do not apply to numismatic coins.</i>&nbsp; (There were at least three or four court cases involving coins with numismatic premiums including classic gold, Morgan Dollars, certain better date silver, Mercury Dimes, certain DDOs and overdates.&nbsp; Moreover, all remain legal tender under the Coinage Act of 1965 and are therefore current coins of the U.S.).</p><p><br /></p><p>(3)&nbsp; <i>Carr did not engage in flattening processes or other processes with the goal of eradicating the host coin.</i>&nbsp; (Actually he admits to using flattening processes and further admitted to overstriking some coins four times to eradicate the details and design of the host coin as much as possible.&nbsp; See post #354 for citation and quote)</p><p><br /></p><p>(4)&nbsp; <i>Counterfeits or imitation numismatic items need be exact copies or reproductions</i>.&nbsp; This has been rejected so many times it isn&#039;t funny.</p><p><br /></p><p>(5)&nbsp; <i>Carr&#039;s coins will always go up in value.</i>&nbsp; (This is an unproven assumption and seemingly based solely on your own pecuniary interest in the said pieces.)</p><p><br /></p><p>You seem to lead the pack with outright distortions and inaccuracies and project your own inadequacies onto everyone else.&nbsp; I understand that you want his pieces to be legitimate just like young children want Santa Claus to exist.&nbsp; I&#039;m sorry to tell you, there is no Santa Claus in numismatics.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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