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<p>[QUOTE="Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2608827, member: 28107"]I don't know where you and your followers get the notion that a fake or counterfeit need be an exact replica or copy of something. It certainly isn't from the law. The Chinese have produced counterfeits of dates and/or mint marks never issued by the Mint. An 1894-CC Morgan is a counterfeit, the date notwithstanding. These pieces are almost ubiquitously and uncontroversially referred to as fakes and counterfeits. The overstrike process is a huge red herring; the original coin is destroyed and you imprint new devices, mottos, dates, mint marks, denominations, etc. Without government authorization you are falsely coining new pieces in the resemblance or similitude of U.S. coinage. It isn't that complicated.</p><p><br /></p><p>The alteration/mutilation argument is also a distraction. Nowhere in 18 U.S.C. 331 does the statute that all mutilation or alteration is legal absent an intent to defraud. It says only that fraudulent alteration is illegal without preventing the application of other statutes to include 18 U.S.C. 485-490.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2608827, member: 28107"]I don't know where you and your followers get the notion that a fake or counterfeit need be an exact replica or copy of something. It certainly isn't from the law. The Chinese have produced counterfeits of dates and/or mint marks never issued by the Mint. An 1894-CC Morgan is a counterfeit, the date notwithstanding. These pieces are almost ubiquitously and uncontroversially referred to as fakes and counterfeits. The overstrike process is a huge red herring; the original coin is destroyed and you imprint new devices, mottos, dates, mint marks, denominations, etc. Without government authorization you are falsely coining new pieces in the resemblance or similitude of U.S. coinage. It isn't that complicated. The alteration/mutilation argument is also a distraction. Nowhere in 18 U.S.C. 331 does the statute that all mutilation or alteration is legal absent an intent to defraud. It says only that fraudulent alteration is illegal without preventing the application of other statutes to include 18 U.S.C. 485-490.[/QUOTE]
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