Ay CARRumba!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Cascade, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Perfect example of how I think you love the drama. You're probably chuckling at your computer right now, cracking your knuckles, lol.
     
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    And that person who inherited it would be out nothing. Meanwhile, we would be laughing at them, like we laughed at a certain member and his "11 cent coin," that's worth a million dollars.
     
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  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I agree, but my whole point is that DC should sign all his work to lessen the chance of a deception taking place! Y'all could laugh all you want, till your aging mother got taken, for example.
     
  5. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    My mother, and 99.99% of people don't give a hoot about coins. If, for some reason, she had a pile of XF Walkers to deal with, and I wasn't available to help her, she'd take them down to a coin dealer or a "we buy gold" place and most likely never even look at them. She doesn't know what a Redbook even is.
     
  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    You're dismissing my point but not disproving the potential of it happening. You guys do that a lot.
     
  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Suppose it did. What would be the consequence to the person so deceived? As I said before, I believe the 1968 dime causes more confusion than any of Dan Carr's pieces.

    Besides, the pieces are out there now. Where are the legions of unsuspecting rubes who've been duped by them? Don't you think at least some of them would have posted on here at some point? Has anybody suffered any financial loss as a result?
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    More dismissal. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean DC doesn't carry some responsibility in ensuring it doesn't.
     
  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the more likely scenario is that some edited buys them from DC, waits for the opportune time, and tries to screw over the unsuspecting. Where is your sense of responsibility DC? Sign all your work.
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Thank you for stopping by, I'm a variety & error collector .
    It's one of our, yes our, jobs to let people know what these example are, welcome to the real error & variety world ..
     
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  11. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    The non-issued "fantasy date" is the signature. People are FAR more likely to note that on the piece than they would notice some small signature mark elsewhere.
     
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  12. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    What a novel idea, I can't believe no one has thought of that before.
     
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  13. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    I don't understand your answer (if it is an answer).

    What is a fantasy-date over-strike a "fake" of, exactly ?
     
  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I really don't admire at all how you threaten legal action on your website against crooks trying to deceive others, but you bear no personal responsibility of your own. Time to rethink your position, Dan.
     
  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Again like any other thread, people who can't be bothered to look up a date will not know a mint mark. People also get fooled by pieces that literally have copy written on them. People are adults they can take responsibility for their own decisions of what to buy and what not to buy. 15 seconds on google takes you to Dans site where all the information is out in the open or anyone of the 50 million threads about him on every forum
     
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  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The "too bad for you" line of thinking saddens me. There's no empathy, no understanding. That is, until it happens to someone you know.
    Every month some posts a thread about how they were in a coin shop and grandma came in and found out all she had was crap even though their husband paid big money for it. And every time, there is sympathy expressed, but not with DC pieces, is that it?
     
  17. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Ok, fine. Let's suppose it did happen. Let's suppose someone found a Dan Carr 1922-D half dollar overstrike, looked it up in in a price guide and found it wasn't there. What do they do next? Look it up in another price guide and find it's not there as well?

    Well, by golly, I've got this coin that isn't listed in any price guide! It must be a new, and valuable discovery that somehow fell into my lap after 90+ years. Maybe I can sell it to someone who will give me a lot of money for it. Someone like... a coin dealer, maybe?

    The coin dealer tells the person what it is, and offers him or her an appropriate amount of money for it.

    And that's where the story ends.

    As for some unsuspecting schmuck being duped by someone else selling these things as authentic, I think that is a rather farfetched scenario. There are far easier ways to part gullible people from their money.

    But, let's be charitable and assume it happens. That seller has committed fraud, and can be prosecuted for it and forced to make restitution to the victims. It doesn't matter if they were selling 1922-D overstrikes or magic beans. The person they're selling to obviously doesn't have a lick of sense. I could take a sledgehammer to some concrete blocks and convince them it was pieces of the Berlin Wall.

    That doesn't mean it would be any less sad, but just as the makers of concrete blocks aren't to blame, neither is Dan Carr.
     
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I disagree wholeheartedly! The maker of the pieces shares in the blame/responsibility. Especially when he has total control of the process! Sign your work, Dan, and do your part.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Well will you look at this. Now he's threatening legal action against the very site that's been bending over backwards in countless threads to protect his free speech. I think you lost it, buster. I think it's maybe time this site you hold such disregard for gave you and your threads the old heave-ho, so as to protect itself...from you.
     
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  20. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    If, at some point in the future somebody pulls off a scam using some coin, how about we blame the person actually perpetrating that fraud ?
     
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  21. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Well stated, but maybe one day he'll do the right thing.
     
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