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  1. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Kinda like blaming the tobacco companies for lung cancer too.
     
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  3. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Those companies also paid the price quite literally.
     
  4. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Ain't that the truth, that little old lady sued the crap out of them ...
     
  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Nothing like a real error coin .
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Don't you dare..........
     
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  8. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    What price? Any money they have paid out has already been recovered and then some.
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I can be like a kid in a candy store, I want them all ...
     
  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Over 200 million dollars for the first suit against them ...
     
  11. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    Too late ...
    You've already repeated what you wrote in other threads in this thread. :yack:
    Several times.

    The case you repeatedly cite in this regard involved fraudulent intent, and it was not a fantasy-date over-strike situation.
     
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  12. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    What's 200 million to a company like Phillip Morris who brings in 80 billion annually?
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Quite true, but I'm sure her kids are living it up ...
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    If you guys want to smoke cigarettes and collect DC coins/tokens, then I leave you to your own devices. Just put the blame where it squarely belongs..........on yourselves/ourselves. :)
     
  15. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    No, an altered (over-struck) Wheat Cent is not a "fake" of a Wheat Cent if the over-strike date does not match previously-issued Lincoln Cents.
     
  16. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I have said it once and I will say it again. Stupidity shouldnt be catered to like a handicap.

    How many redundant laws and regulations are out there to protect morons? Actually morons are the only ones who thinks some of those laws and regualtions are meant to protect them.
     
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  17. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    But if you don't make the laws, your catering to the criminals...
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Lately, it seems, that when you make the laws, you're catering to the criminals. Welcome to NY........
     
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  19. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    We have a new sheriff in town now, at least for 4 years or so ....
     
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  20. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I don't know where you and your followers get the notion that a fake or counterfeit need be an exact replica or copy of something. It certainly isn't from the law. The Chinese have produced counterfeits of dates and/or mint marks never issued by the Mint. An 1894-CC Morgan is a counterfeit, the date notwithstanding. These pieces are almost ubiquitously and uncontroversially referred to as fakes and counterfeits. The overstrike process is a huge red herring; the original coin is destroyed and you imprint new devices, mottos, dates, mint marks, denominations, etc. Without government authorization you are falsely coining new pieces in the resemblance or similitude of U.S. coinage. It isn't that complicated.

    The alteration/mutilation argument is also a distraction. Nowhere in 18 U.S.C. 331 does the statute that all mutilation or alteration is legal absent an intent to defraud. It says only that fraudulent alteration is illegal without preventing the application of other statutes to include 18 U.S.C. 485-490.
     
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  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    That's what I was thinking, one could always show up, I see new discovery all the time ....
     
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