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<p>[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 2392114, member: 74222"]Ehm? Did the author really say that? or was it just a slack conclusion from you?</p><p><br /></p><p>Because the idea of a Byzantium that supposedly was specific inflicted with intrigues and palace d’coups is practically a notion from 1700 or so, and is no longer accepted among the scholars today just as the same reason why books on child-rearing from 1700 where suggestion of beating children on faces no longer is accepted among the psychologists.</p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Empire (plus all others) were just as much/little intrigues as Byzantium.</p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republic time and Imperial pre-Constantian time (also) had intrigues, murders, wars etc etc. Apparently as much as their Byzantium counterpart. From my mind right now I can bring up the Sulla-Marius squabbling over Jugartha. The social war. The assassinations of the Gracchus brothers. Julius Caesar’s death. First triumvirates?, bloody. Second triumvirates with Octavian and Anthony?, bloody as well. When Octavian realized that Cleopatra had a child with Caesar named Caesarion, he was also killed. Later when the family of Germanicus took the emperor throne it is pointless to suggest how Caligula and Nero acted like, and Agrippina is almost synonym with poisons. During the crisis in the 200’s almost all those so-called solidier-emperors were easily assassinated one after one in very short time.</p><p><br /></p><p>An emperor in Roman Empire from the time of Augustus until Diocletian had an average reign years of about 8 years. Post Constantinian era from Arcadius and onwards had about 12 years as average in comparison. Note also that the eastern part of the Roman Empire practically survived century after century after century for about 1000 years meanwhile the others empires typical lasted for only about 100 or 200 years in the Middle Ages. An empire that lasts for 1000 years is certainly not the most intrigue.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the author really repeated the classical flawed notion and said that Byzantium was specific filled with murders and intrigues then it would surprise me a bit as it really contradicts what was taught as history student when I had ancient and medieval at uni. </p><p><br /></p><p>For a clarification I would like to say that the above should not be taking as critics against you nor as an annoying remark from me, and since a text always sounds harsher than a speak I will provide a smiley: <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 2392114, member: 74222"]Ehm? Did the author really say that? or was it just a slack conclusion from you? Because the idea of a Byzantium that supposedly was specific inflicted with intrigues and palace d’coups is practically a notion from 1700 or so, and is no longer accepted among the scholars today just as the same reason why books on child-rearing from 1700 where suggestion of beating children on faces no longer is accepted among the psychologists. Roman Empire (plus all others) were just as much/little intrigues as Byzantium. Roman Republic time and Imperial pre-Constantian time (also) had intrigues, murders, wars etc etc. Apparently as much as their Byzantium counterpart. From my mind right now I can bring up the Sulla-Marius squabbling over Jugartha. The social war. The assassinations of the Gracchus brothers. Julius Caesar’s death. First triumvirates?, bloody. Second triumvirates with Octavian and Anthony?, bloody as well. When Octavian realized that Cleopatra had a child with Caesar named Caesarion, he was also killed. Later when the family of Germanicus took the emperor throne it is pointless to suggest how Caligula and Nero acted like, and Agrippina is almost synonym with poisons. During the crisis in the 200’s almost all those so-called solidier-emperors were easily assassinated one after one in very short time. An emperor in Roman Empire from the time of Augustus until Diocletian had an average reign years of about 8 years. Post Constantinian era from Arcadius and onwards had about 12 years as average in comparison. Note also that the eastern part of the Roman Empire practically survived century after century after century for about 1000 years meanwhile the others empires typical lasted for only about 100 or 200 years in the Middle Ages. An empire that lasts for 1000 years is certainly not the most intrigue. If the author really repeated the classical flawed notion and said that Byzantium was specific filled with murders and intrigues then it would surprise me a bit as it really contradicts what was taught as history student when I had ancient and medieval at uni. For a clarification I would like to say that the above should not be taking as critics against you nor as an annoying remark from me, and since a text always sounds harsher than a speak I will provide a smiley: :happy:[/QUOTE]
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