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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2398181, member: 112"]Well I'm asking because the first of the two examples I posted, that could be said to be the discovery coin. I bought it from a dealer friend of mine 12 years ago and at that time there was no listing for that coin in any Krause book, or any other book for that matter. It was mentioned and described a couple of times in auction catalogs in the previous couple of decades. And even then the only thing it said was that nobody knew what it was because it had never been seen or even heard of before. Other than those old auction catalogs the first time that coin was ever mentioned was when I posted about it right here on this forum in 2004. Later on I found another example, the 2nd I posted, and I bought it as well. Then one of my students found yet a 3rd and he bought it. If memory serves, it's one of the two examples that you mention. Over time a few more of these coins showed up. Sometimes I ran across them, other times others told me about them. Even so, there is still not more than a handful of them known to exist. And I was just curious as to when Krause actually got around to finally listing these coins because I haven't bought a new Krause in many years. My copy of the edition that "would" have that coin, was published in 2002. Thus the reason for my asking.[/QUOTE]