Authentic yaun dynasty 10 cash?

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  1. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    I got this coin from a coin show and forgot about it for a while. I believe it is a Yaun dynasty 10 cash coin from 1310. Does it look authentic to you all?
     

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  3. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Yes, Yuan Dynasty, Emperor Wu Zong, 1308 - 1311 AD. 10 Cash coin, the obverse reads Da Yuan Tong Bao in Mongol script (see Hartill 19.46).

    Neat type, and a nice example.
     
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  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Yuan dynasty is cool. Nice hefty coin, eh? Mine measures nearly 41mm, 23.69g.

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  5. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Here is mine with the corresponding Phags Pa legend:

    Imperial China, Yuan Dynasty: Emperor Wu Zong 10 Cash, 1310-1311 (Hartill-19.46)

    Obv: Ta Üen tung baw in Phags-Pa (ꡈꡝ ꡝꡦꡦꡋ ꡉꡟꡃ ꡎꡓ) = 大元通寶 Da Yuan tong bao
    Rev: Blank

    Note: Phags-Pa is written top-down and hence the whole inscription needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise. To mimic this behavior, Unicode encodes the letters rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise. Finally, the inscription on the coin is read top, bottom, left and then right...

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  6. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    How much do these go for?
     
  7. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    I also have this coin. It is thinner and is a tad bigger. Do you know what it is exactly? The bottom character is different, the other 3 characters are the same
     

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  8. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Rummaging through Hartill produces no matches unfortunately. Here is the Phags-Pa alphabet as per Hartill

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  9. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    Thank you! How much are the 10 cash worth?
     
  10. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Depends. The problem here is that the Mongolian cash coins are quite popular and hence the price goes up by demand and condition. I have seen them for about $20 and upwards, if the condition is good. I bought mine for about $40 or $50...

    See https://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PA...R_TYPE_ID_2=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1

    which seems a bit too much.
     
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  11. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I hear all the time how a coin should be $xxx, but in reality it is $zzz. These currently go for between $100 and $150. If anyone can find them cheaper let me know and I will buy them for resale.
     
  12. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    :wideyed: Time for me to sell some coins on resale!
     
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  13. Charles1997

    Charles1997 Well-Known Member

    Do you think it is a coin or amulet?
     
  14. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    That is a very nice coin. Mine is much rougher...

    China Yuan Dynasty Mongol Empire 1307 to 1311 AD 10 Cash.jpg
    China Yuan Dynasty Mongol Empire 1307 to 1311 AD 10 Cash reverse.jpg
     
  15. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I don't like either as legit (meaning minted by a government mint for circulation). The color is not right and the characters seem off.
     
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