Authentic Toning or Not?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Farmer<3, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. Farmer<3

    Farmer<3 New Member

    Hi im new to this i dont know how to start a new thread and i dont understand the guide to do it. I will post in here instead i dont hope it will make anyone mad. My questions are can anyone tell me if the toning on my coin is artificial or authentic? What is your opinion on this coin? download (1).png

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  3. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Welcome to Coin Talk! I’ve asked the moderator to move your post to our ancients forum. Enjoy our neighborhood Larry
  4. Farmer<3

    Farmer<3 New Member

    Thank you Heavymetal :)
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    It's a handsome Trajan denarius and I think the toning is original "cabinet toning", which is a good thing.
  6. Farmer<3

    Farmer<3 New Member

    Thanks for your replie lordmarcovan :)
  7. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Looks perfectly normal
  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Yep— normal, gorgeous, and desirable toning :)
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    In my experience with American coins, I’ve seen this type of toning form after a piece has been dipped or cleaned. From the aspect that it was not put there with a conscious effort, it’s not exactly artificial, but it is the result of the chemicals that were used to dip or clean piece that were not removed entirely. Some people really like these colors, but I am not one of those collectors who will pay a premium for them. If I like other aspects of the coin, I’ll consider buying it.
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    All ancient coins are cleaned in some manner. Toning can occur quickly or over a long time.
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Looks natural too me, nice coin.
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  12. Farmer<3

    Farmer<3 New Member

    thanks for your replies folks i appreciate it :)
  13. Farmer<3

    Farmer<3 New Member

    More replies are still welcome offcourse :)
  14. Theodosius

    Theodosius Unrepentant Fine Style Freak! Supporter

    Welcome to cointalk!

    What other ancients do you have?

  15. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    toning is an oxidizing reaction that occurs to the metal of your coin over time. It is caused by either oxygen (usually slower) or sulfur. your coin has been around for 1900 yrs. and has had plenty of time to be in contact with these elements. Also, in the not too distant past many of these ancients were stored in sulfur containing envelops which toned the metal . Would this toning be called artificial? I don't think so, but that would be up to one's point of view. Bottom line is you have a very nice looking Trajan denarius, nearly 2000 years old that any of us would be proud to own.
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Natural toning for a 1900 year old piece of silver would be dark gray to black. Almost all ancients have been cleaned but some may have been cleaned before the first US coin was made. Many of us have coins that we know have been in a collection for over a hundred years. The standards for terms like 'natural' have to be applied differently for ancient coins than for recently made things like silver dollars. You coin looks fine to me. Whether it got that way from storage in 'bad' paper, oak cabinets, big city pollution or dirty fingers of collectors not afraid to touch their coins makes little difference.
  17. Farmer<3

    Farmer<3 New Member

    Thank you very much :)

    Hi John and thanks, i only have to Trajan coins that i bought recently. Unfortunatly i had to sell my collection of ancient coins because i ended up having no income. But now where i have had some one day jobs now and then and a period of work in two weeks i could afford buying some coins again. Im still looking for a full time job but it will come i just need to keep searching.
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