Authentic or Fake

Not safe. From photos we can protect you from the obvious and the ones we have seem before. In person we might add a few more that we could catch and probably would tell you to avoid a few good coins along the way. Buying from an experienced dealer who has the coin in hand and is willing to back up his opinion with a refund in case of error is considerably better. It is not cheaper until you factor in the mistakes you make along the way. Coin College is not cheap whether you go to the school of hard knocks or hire a tutor.

 

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Agree, but you guys are a GOOD first line of defense!!!

 

Many genuine coins have also been given artificial patinas. Whether and how much this bothers you is a question for each to answer but the number of us that see signs of a false patina as sign that there is something worse to hide is not small and will affect your resale of the item if you outgrow it. Will a dealer disclose a false patina if they know about it? Some will.

 

That three-sisters reverse is highly coveted and frequently faked. I'd only buy one from CNG, Harlan Berk or other dealer who typically carries such rarities.

 

It's sad, but whenever OP shows some coins and asks real or fake, I always assume fake because he's yet to show a real one...

I won't say anything else...but I'm getting suspicious.

 

Beware seller ( jorjscoins) coins and medallions all are false

 

Welcome @Antony coins

 

Welcome!!!

This is a seller I mentioned on a post months ago and I see he still has a high rating

Perhaps we should list our favorite and trusted eBay sellers again as a clarification for those entering this hobby and insistent on shopping there instead of from a reputable auction house???

 

Seriously...how many times have we repeated the same advice for safe places to find good coins.

 

I will say it again, there are good seller's on Ebay as well. Heck, even some of our own CTers sell on the bay. However, it pays to check things out before putting money on any object sold there. There is a list, admittedly not always up to date, on FAC called the Notorious Fake Sellers list (NSL) which should be reviewed prior to buying something on Ebay from someone you do not know.

 

I'm assuming you did not buy them yet and are seeking advice if they are Authentic or Fake.

I have personally bid on several coins which turned out to be fake. I'm very happy to say that eBay have decided to take a very harsh stance when it comes to fakes. I was asked on 4 occasions to keep the item but was given a full refund via Paypal when the seller either refused to take the goods/coins back or pleaded ignorance about their authenticity. In one case it was a pair of gold and diamond earrings but the seller also said they were from a very well known designer. The fake earrings were worth $$$ on their own without the designer's stamp/signature.

So maybe we should change our strategy:

Buy the fake, open case, post a very clear NEGATIVE feedback with explanations, offer to return the item for full refund INCLUDING ALL POSTAGE, post photos to eBay customer services, eBay settles in your favour, cheat-dealer is stung for fake item plus postage.

How many times will a cheat be able to afford such losses and negative feedback??? Just my 2 pennies worth.

 

I am not knocking Ebay, I buy coins from trusted dealers there myself.

I think there is something else going on here.

 

Many. If he sells 100 fakes and has to refund 10, he makes out like a bandit. 90% of the buyers of such fakes know no better and never will unless they try to sell the item to someone who does.

 

Most of the fakesellers out there know how to work the system to get rid of negative feedback as long as they refund your money. They'll let you keep the coin because in most cases the cost to make a fake is not significantly more than the return postage would cost. Plus, at the end of the day, I'd rather spend the fraction of my time I can dedicate to coins studying and collecting real coins rather than trying to punish dealers of fakes.

 

Great topic for discussion!

 

Gawd ... this thread again?

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I like your spirit

 

Granny said "Don't feel sorry for the Wolf" well I just made that up lol!

 

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