Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Daulton, May 14, 2023.
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Note the style, position, and consistency of the date and mint mark on a real, certified PCGS MS 66 1914 D.
I don't like the look of the puffy date/mm or mm position.
( a little late night dry humor).
Are these the only ones, just five obverse dies? Do we know? That would average to 238,600 per die, given the mintage, that's why I'm wondering.
I read there were 6 obverse dies and 7 reverse dies. I’ve had this pic of the group of 5 for awhile. I thought I had a pic of the 6 but can’t find it.
Thank you. Do you happen to know whether 6 dies for 1,193,000 coins seems right? I've no clue. I'm just wondering, again. I'm sort of a wonderer.
Great question. I only know from what I’ve read. All have said 5 or 6. Here is a link from a CT thread, started in 2009 and updated with map overlays of the 6 known dies in 2019.
I just found this post from a 5 year old thread on the PCGS forum. It’s a photo from the Denver mint on die usage for the 1914 Lincoln. It shows 6 obverse and 7 reverse dies used.
Awesome, thank you very much! I see the 1,205,284 total and the per-die averages all around 200,000 more or less which correlates with what one would project from the 6 dies striking that many coins. Just awesome you were able to dig this page up. BTW, is that "Roger," a.k.a., RWB? Now I warned you I'm a wonderer.
I’m almost positive that’s the same Roger.
i’m glad you wondered……..it made me do a little investigating.
To wrap this up, this is how we know the coin featured here is a counterfeit. With Mint records showing the die capacities were, give or take, 200,000, and a total minted of just over 1.2 million, for this coin featured to be from a 7th die we’d expect to see a Mint record of over 1.4 million minted. That’s why this coin is a counterfeit. We that is to say don’t have to speculate on how it was counterfeited, only that it doesn’t match the 6 obverse dies in the record. There’s, in effect, the significance of this record.
One of the guys at the coin meeting brought one in to question.
I couldn't get a good enough picture to post but it looked pretty good.
One Big Red flag for me was someone scratched a line across the 1914 date.
This guy still bought this coin for $55.
He bought it 20 years ago from a coin shot that he trusted and was talking about sending it in to get graded.
I'd be curious to know the results.
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