Austria: silver 3-kreuzer of Leopold I ("The Hogmouth"), 1700-IA, minor clipped planchet error

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How interesting/appealing do you find this coin, whether or not you're an expert? (1=worst, 10=best)

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Austria: silver 3-kreuzer of Leopold I ("The Hogmouth"), 1700-IA, minor clipped planchet error
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    Obverse: Portrait right and titles of Leopold I.
    Reverse: Three shields in inner circle, date at top. "IA" mintmaster initials at bottom.
    Issuer: Leopold I, Holy Roman Emperor (1658-1705), Archduke of Austria (as Leopold VI), etc., etc.
    Specifications: Silver, 20 mm, 1.3 g approx. (unrecorded prior to encapsulation). Graz mint.
    Grade: PCGS MS64; cert. #38580860.
    Reference: KM-1115, PCGS-445157, Numista-26235, Her.1364*.
    Provenance: ex-Halbedel Münzen und Medallien, Salzburg, Austria, 10 May 2019. Purchased raw.
    Notes: This coin, like many of its era, was produced on roller dies, an early machine process that replaced the ancient hand-hammering technique. Coins made on roller dies were often very slightly curved and not quite flat. This one is not especially warped but has a slightly clipped planchet, which is also not uncommon.
    Comments: Leopold I, of the House of Habsburg, had a very distinctive appearance due to his "Habsburg Jaw" (mandibular prognathism). This was a genetic result of inbreeding between royals. His unflattering but colorful nickname was "the Hogmouth". (I'll bet no one dared call him that in person!)

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Interesting.. Is it really an Incomplete planchet or are you thinking it was clipped (damaged) after the coin was struck? It wasn't attributed as a clipped issue unless the submitter didn't ask for the attribution.
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I was the submitter and no, I didn't ask for attribution. It is not post-mint damage but rather a product of the way the blanks were punched out of the strip of metal. A mintmade clipped planchet error, in other words.

    However, this commands no premium on an earlier coin like this, since it was a fairly normal quality control issue at the time. Only on a more modern coin (produced to more exacting standards) would a clipped planchet error be something special. In this case, it's just an interesting minor quirk but neither adds nor detracts from the coin's value.
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Got it.. I will give LEOPOLDUS an 8 then..
    That's one ugly man :yack: but great hair!
    Thanks for sharing!
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Ugly was half the appeal, here. Leopold would not be half as interesting if he had been handsome, without being nicknamed "Hogmouth". You gotta love that stuff, right? ;)

    Oh, and yes- he did have fantastic hair. (Though it was probably a wig.)

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    (Not my coin- this was in the Wikipedia article.)
     
  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Great coin, but in that grade I would have preferred one without the clip. Just my opinion
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    (Extremely belated reply):

    The clip doesn't bother me at all. It's kind of a fun little quirk, as I see it. Besides, in this grade (or any others, for that matter), there aren't any other 1700-IA examples- at least not in PCGS plastic. This is the only one! (Population 1, none higher, as of this post.)
     
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