Aureus Vespasian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Tanso, Dec 8, 2018 at 2:32 PM.

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Authentic?

  1. Fake

    3 vote(s)
    60.0%
  2. Authentic

    2 vote(s)
    40.0%
  1. Tanso

    Tanso New Member

    I have no diameter and weight. What do you think about its authenticity?

    Thanks

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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Can we have more information? Diameter, weight, and from whom you acquired it are pretty basic data points in trying to assess authenticity by images alone.
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Ummm...

    The time to determine authenticity when buying a coin worth a couple thousand dollars is BEFORE you pay.
     
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  5. Tanso

    Tanso New Member

    It is not mine, my apologies no more data. Anyway, most of the modern fakes have a proper weight, so I think it is not so important. The best is to see it in your hands but not easy...
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Whose is it? Are you vetting it for a friend, or are you considering buying this coin?
     
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  7. Tanso

    Tanso New Member

    A friend of mine sent me it asking for authenticity, he said that it comes from a Spanish group in facebook. I am not considering buying it at all, and I believe it is not for sale, I am just asking for your several opinions.
     
  8. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish) Supporter

    If it's a fake it is a fairly good one. There are things you can look for that give you clues on how it was made which can help you form an opinion about authenticity but, unfortunately, we have had cases of the manufacturers of fake coins coming on to this forum to ask for a free lesson on how to make better fakes. I'm not sure getting opinions from a forum is the best venue to vet a coin of this value. If authentic it's a beauty. Have you checked the FORVM fakes database?

    The best advice that I can give on a coin of this caliber is to send it to NGC or David Sear.
     
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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I agree with Curtis. Please know that I am not an expert but I see no overt signs of fakery. The fabric and style look like other examples of the type.

    An in-hand exam by an expert is probably warranted if it wasn't purchased from such a person. Looks like it may have been a metal detecting find (shovel scrape on the reverse?).
     
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  10. Tanso

    Tanso New Member

    Ok, I appreciate your opinion. I agree that it is better to do not give many details. I checked database but we know that many fakes are missing. NGC is not 100% secure, I saw some fakes guaranteed (but I do not want to discuss on that, it is another story).
     
  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I don't see anything alarming, but from the photos alone I cannot say for certain if it is genuine or not. For a coin such as this it would be well worth the money to send it to David Sear.
     
  12. 3 of those aureus (RIC 28) have been sold last October for about 3500 US $by serious auction houses...so I think your friend should invest a few dollars to make it authentificated.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2018 at 7:23 PM
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  13. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I remember when NFA had that Ahenobarbus Aureus....it sure looked 100 percent the real McCoy/ but that story ended badly. They are expert forgers out there, esp. for high end coins.:(
     
  14. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    The reverse style seems off to me. Pax is depicted almost looking pregnant. Besides, Spain is the new Bulgaria as it pertains to fakes.
     
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  15. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    my sentiments exactly..and what @Curtisimo said
     
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