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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2573829, member: 19463"]I like to distinguish between two kinds if finicky data. If the presence of absence of the C (for example) is significant in the placement of the coin to a specific mint or has some other meaning that I might consider important, I am happy to have that information. However when it appears that the guys at the mint just made some dies one way and others another, I have no real interest in the matter. As you may know, I have no use for the concept of catalog numbers in general but sometimes we see new numbers assigned by the authors for such minor situations (here a dot, there a dot) and other cases where one RIC number represents a dozen minor variations (RIC V is bad on this). Cohen assigned numbers with absolutely no notice of mint marks. RIC sometimes changes a number for letter spacing. Are there no middle of the road answers here?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have no idea where you got RIC 409. That listing is back in the forgeries section with M/M ++I. I have little enough use for RIC V as it is but here the answer is to use the online replacement with search capabilities which gives us</p><p><a href="http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/2403?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+AVRELIANVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA+MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/2403?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+AVRELIANVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA+MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced" rel="nofollow">http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/2403?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced</a></p><p><br /></p><p>which says the old RIC number is 244 having 44 different mintmarks one of which works as long as the fact that the author gave the bust direction as left. I know some of you worship a book over anything online but don't use RIC V part 1 when there is the great online replacement free for your use.</p><p><br /></p><p>They show over a dozen photos of various coins of the number allowing you to see where the centration dots fell. Some fell on the hands so you can't see them. One die has two dots which is very unusual. </p><p><a href="http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coinview/2403/1939695384?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+AVRELIANVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA+MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced&ancre=type-specimen" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coinview/2403/1939695384?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+AVRELIANVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA+MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced&ancre=type-specimen" rel="nofollow">http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coinview/2403/1939695384?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced&ancre=type-specimen</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Anyone (not Steve, I know he does not want to <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) want to look up the RIC numbers for the two coins below? When you finish, you may better understand why I do not like catalog numbers.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]557131[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]557133[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2573829, member: 19463"]I like to distinguish between two kinds if finicky data. If the presence of absence of the C (for example) is significant in the placement of the coin to a specific mint or has some other meaning that I might consider important, I am happy to have that information. However when it appears that the guys at the mint just made some dies one way and others another, I have no real interest in the matter. As you may know, I have no use for the concept of catalog numbers in general but sometimes we see new numbers assigned by the authors for such minor situations (here a dot, there a dot) and other cases where one RIC number represents a dozen minor variations (RIC V is bad on this). Cohen assigned numbers with absolutely no notice of mint marks. RIC sometimes changes a number for letter spacing. Are there no middle of the road answers here? I have no idea where you got RIC 409. That listing is back in the forgeries section with M/M ++I. I have little enough use for RIC V as it is but here the answer is to use the online replacement with search capabilities which gives us [URL='http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/2403?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+AVRELIANVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA+MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced']http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/2403?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced[/URL] which says the old RIC number is 244 having 44 different mintmarks one of which works as long as the fact that the author gave the bust direction as left. I know some of you worship a book over anything online but don't use RIC V part 1 when there is the great online replacement free for your use. They show over a dozen photos of various coins of the number allowing you to see where the centration dots fell. Some fell on the hands so you can't see them. One die has two dots which is very unusual. [URL='http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coinview/2403/1939695384?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP+C+AVRELIANVS+AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA+MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced&ancre=type-specimen']http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coinview/2403/1939695384?tempRIC=&asmSelect0=&Reign=Aurelianus&asmSelect1=&Person=Aurelianus&asmSelect2=&asmSelect3=&asmSelect4=&asmSelect5=&asmSelect6=&Titulature=IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG&asmSelect7=&Legend=CONCORDIA MILITVM&asmSelect8=&asmSelect9=&asmSelect10=&asmSelect11=&BustDescription=&ReverseDescription=&Note=&Reference=&page=14&mod=result&hpp=5&from=advanced&ancre=type-specimen[/URL] Anyone (not Steve, I know he does not want to :p) want to look up the RIC numbers for the two coins below? When you finish, you may better understand why I do not like catalog numbers. [ATTACH=full]557131[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]557133[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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