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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Roman Collector, post: 2785484, member: 75937&quot;]Which Roman emperor is depicted on the obverse of this coin? Is it Augustus (as per BMC and Forrer) or is it Tiberius (as per Sear)?</p><p><br /></p><p>Which Thracian king Rhoemetalkes is depicted on the reverse of this coin? Is it Rhoemetalkes I (as per BMC and Forrer) or is it Rhoemetalkes II (as per Sear)?</p><p><br /></p><p>And whose wife is Pythodoris? Rhoemetalkes I (as per Forrer) or Rhoemetalkes II (as Sear implies)?</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, post your Rhoemetalkes, Augustus provincials, or anything you feel is relevant!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]645503[/ATTACH]</p><p>Kings of Thrace under Roman rule</p><p>AE 24 mm, 6.88 g</p><p>Obv: ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟ[ΡΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡΟΣ ΣΕΒΑΣ]ΤΟΥ, bare head of Augustus or Tiberius, right</p><p>Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩ[Σ ΡΟΙΜΗΤΑΛΚΟΥ], jugate bust of Rhoemetalkes I or II, diademed, and queen (Pythodorus?), right</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s the BMC listing.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]645516[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The BMC takes the circular obverse legend as starting at about the 5:00 position and reading counterclockwise as Κ[ΑΙΣΑΡΟΣ] ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΟΣ and thus is BMC 3, which is attributed to Augustus on the obverse and Rhoemetalkes I (and unnamed Queen) on the reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Forrer--obviously using the BMC listing down to the uncertain Κ . . . . ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΟΣ obverse legend and citing BMC p. 209, 3 directly--states that the queen depicted is Pythodoris, the wife of Rhoemetalkes I, and assigns my coin as #207:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]645526[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoemetalces_I" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoemetalces_I" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a> confirms that Pythodoris was the wife of Rhoemetalkes I.</p><p><br /></p><p>You would think, then that the attribution would clearly be to Augustus, Rhoemetalkes I, and Pythodoris, right?</p><p><br /></p><p>But Sear&#039;s <i>Greek Imperial Coins</i> attributes all coins with the ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡΟΣ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ obverse legend to Augustus and Rhoemetalkes II, who Wikipedia tells me was the GRANDSON of Rhoemetalkes I:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]645522[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>My coin is therefore SGI-5405--which Sear claims is the same as BMC 3.209,3 (and it is) but the BMC attributes #3 to Augustus and Rhoemetalkes I, as we&#039;ve seen above. So, Sear apparently believes the BMC is wrong in its attribution.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sear reports the queen depicted with Rhoemetalkes II is Queen Pythodoris, who would have been Rhoemetalkes&#039; grandmother. Either that, or there is a second Pythodoris who was the wife of Rhoemetalkes II, or Sear believes that the Pythodorus thought by Forrer to be the wife of Rhoemetalkes I was actually the wife of Rhoemetalkes II.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well, there is another Pythodoris--a queen of Pontus by the name of Pythodorida who was known as Pythodoris I--but in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythodorida_of_Pontus" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythodorida_of_Pontus" rel="nofollow">this Wikipedia article</a> about her, she apparently has no direct connection to either Rhoemetalkes.</p><p><br /></p><p>So who are these people? Augustus or Tiberius? Rhoemetalkes I or his grandson, Rhoemetalkes II? Pythodoris, the wife of Rhoemetalkes I or some other Pythodoris?</p><p><br /></p><p>Do any of you know which reference is correct??[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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