Augustus and Agrippa Crocodile AE

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  1. alde

    alde Always Learning

    I have been wanting one of these for quite some time. It must have just been listed on VCOINS a few minutes ago and I snapped it up. I it has very nice eye appeal to me and the price was very fair.

    Sellers description and picture follows:

    Augustus and Agrippa (27 BC-AD 14), Gaul, Nemausus, As, c. 9/8-3 BC, 12.15g, 26mm. Heads of Agrippa left, wearing rostral crown and laurel wreath, and Augustus right, wearing oak wreath, back to back / Crocodile right chained to palm frond with short fronds; wreath with long ties above, palms fronds below. RPC I 524 corr. (Augustus with laurel wreath); RIC I 158. About Very fine, possibly repatinated.
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  3. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Nice, sharp details, congrats!!
     
  4. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A great example
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's a very nice example @alde. The neck chain is still visible.

    Augustus 17.jpg Augustus 20.jpg
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That's a terrific example, @alde! The centering is much better than usual. The crocs are usually larger than the flans and it's nice that yours shows the whole snout. Great detail on the portraits too!
     
  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Great score! I've been wanting one of these as well.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is far nicer than most and missing the usual faults so common to the series that led me to posting my page on the type calling them impossible to grade.
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html

    I found these hard to resist for a while and gathered a set of variations. Be careful that it does not happen to you.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Well done @alde ! Great example, great color, well centered, COOL! I love this design...

    I got one last year:

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    RI Augustus oak crown -Agrippa rostral crown L AE Dupondius 26mm 12.6g 10-14 CE Nemausus chained Croc wreaths RIC I 158
     
  10. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Great portraits, great crocodile, very good catch

    My 1.5 own examples

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    Augustus & Agrippa, AE halved dupondius struck in Nemausus, after 10 BC
    3rd type
    [IM]P [DI]VI F , Laureate head of Augustus right
    [COL NEM], Crocodile chained to palm tree
    6.70 gr
    Ref : RCV #1730, Cohen # 10


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    Augustus & Agrippa, AE Dupondius struck in Nemausus, after 10 AD
    4th type
    IMP DIVI F PP, Laureate heads of Augustus and Agrippa back to back
    COL NEM, Crocodile chained to palm tree
    12.84 gr
    Ref : RCV #1731, Cohen #8

    Q
     
  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    That AS is probably the best I have seen!!!

    I love that cut Dupondius, amazing that the cut matched the obv/rev dies so well!
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    After seeing the one you posted I want one so I'll be on the lookout for one as nice as yours. :)
     
  13. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    Nice coin & excellent croc! On coins of my collecting period (RR), Octavian's head is smaller. On yours he is the alpha, & has a larger head.

    The only croc I have is on a pic in my office -
    crocodile_hunting_wildebeest.jpg
    with some advice from a friend to follow the wildebeest migration strategy when dealing with a difficult boss:
    "cross in mass and most of you will make it"
     
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  14. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Nice one alde, I agree with Tif and Doug these coins are hard to find with everything right, this one of mine was bought because I wanted a portrait of Agrippa, as you can see Augustus is off flan, but yours is well centred. NMf52W3dH5c6Ts3Xr8TaCaD97Pifz4.jpg
     
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  15. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Nice coins everyone. I love the fact that it does such a great job telling it's story. I can see where it was good propaganda at the time. I also like the variety. I want one with the teeth in the upper jaw pointing up. I wonder what the die envraver was thinking?
     
  16. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Woohoo! I can contribute. :D

    Here's mine (seller's pics):

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    Erin
     
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  17. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That is a great example alde! I really do love this type and yours is better than most I've seen. Congrats!

    (I wonder how many coins I've missed on Vcoins because I wasn't checking it often enough!)
     
  18. alde

    alde Always Learning

    David, I was only there a half hour before and it wasn't there yet. It's just a matter of luck I'm sure.
     
  19. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    As always HIGH quality stuff
     
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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Handsome croc coin, @alde! Nice to see so many different ones in this thread. I picked up this specimen with a horned snout last year.

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  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW !! So many exceptional examples from the OP right down to my far more modest pick-up. I just grabbed my example the other day....but it goes well with my cut 'half-as' specimen that was always screaming for company LOL

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