Auctions houses and Covoronavirus

Oh, hey now. I don't know what circle that would be, but I cannot fathom anything worst than dealing with phone or cable companies. I trust you were being facetious.

 

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I only had one shipment go MIA/ SIT(stolen in transit.)
CNG mailed a FDC Trajan Decius Aureus (Triton I)I never received it. CNG looked into it promptly, but offered to reimbruse me for loss.
Later on Lloyds (their insurer) said it was tracked to Canadian customs/ then it vanished. I had a friend that was a customs troubleshooter/ he said, CNG should have never declared the contents/ value, since he had investigated many such thefts. Since then I have had everything thing sent as "neutral" reg. mail=no more MIAS

 

I've waited up to 2 months for Registered Mail packages from Europe. A 12 day old scan at ISC NY is no cause for alarm, IMHO. Especially in the midst of the crisis we're in currently.

 

Please note that CGB Numismatique is closed only for visitors coming to their physical store in Paris. Their MA-Shop remains open and has been updated: https://www.ma-shops.com/cgb/

All MA-Shop shipments are insured. Under typical conditions, it can sometimes take 2+ weeks for a package to reach it's destination even once it arrives in the States. If you haven't received it within a couple of weeks I suggest contacting service @ ma-shops . com (remove spaces) for support.

I hope this is helpful.

 

Thanks, and I do hope you're right. I think my level of concern (wholly apart from the potential loss of the money I paid) is directly tied to how much I was looking forward to receiving this coin, and my level of my disappointment if I never do. (Especially since the one other time I filed a missing mail report, a number of years ago, I never heard anything, and that seems to be a common experience.) I'd been looking for an example of this coin type to buy for a while before I settled on this one -- the majority of examples I see are badly off-centered or otherwise seriously flawed -- and was really quite excited about this one, in a way that I'm sure many of you can understand.

Anyway, in case it does turn out that the package was lost or stolen, I'm going to post a description of the coin together with the seller's photo, so if any of you ever happens to see the particular coin for sale in the future, you'll know that it was supposed to be mine, and was stolen. And if the package does arrive, well, I'll be happy to know that I overreacted!

Roman Republic, L. Papius, AR Serrate Denarius, 79 BCE. Obv. Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin; control-symbol of lyre behind/ Rev. Gryphon prancing right, control-symbol of lyre-key below, L. PAPI in exergue. Crawford 384/1 (see also Crawford Vol. II Plate LXVII, control-symbol 127 & p. 788), RSC I Papia 1, Sear RCV I 311 (ill.). 19 mm., 3.79 g., 9 h.

 

Thank you! That is encouraging.

 

The most annoying thing about this response is that packages are almost never annotated with anything regarding customs. They go to the ISC, which is before they are sent through customs, and then the next step in tracking is usually once they get to the sort facility on the other side of customs. I've had packages that were opened by customs and then sent on their way but never showed anything regarding customs on their tracking.

It is my experience that customs will not actually acknowledge any packages that are being held there until they actually decide to seize them or want information from you. Anything else is treated as "we don't know anything about it".

 

CGB is close for some week , no employees in their offices some work certainly remotely to answer email. Normally they carryon weekly auctions but don’t send anymore any packages I think that the last one were sent by DHL it was on their website banner and now the banner state that they keep all sales in their vault.

 

If you used Paypal or credit card for this purchase, you can file a claim. I think you have 4 or 6 months from the purchase date to file a claim.

It seems that your coin is somewhere in customs. Overseas shipments can take a very long time to arrive.

I've had some coins sent by international registered first class. That level of service does take a very long time quite often.

 

Does anyone know if Roma Numismatics is holding the floor auction tomorrow and Friday? The Internet bidding ends in roughly 11 hours.

 

You're quite right that it does take time, sometimes a long time, to hear back from the USPS after filing a missing/delayed mail inquiry. Sometimes I never heard back on the final resolution, while other times I did and the item arrived.

Customs is usually the snag, but I had one instance, about a year ago, when a package from the UK was misaddressed (wrong zip code). I was watching the tracking going from one city in Missouri to another (the zip code was for a small city in central Missouri).

The package had the correct street address and city, state (Cupertino, CA) and yet the package continued on its odyssey, looping back and forth from the main hub in St. Louis to the other Mo city.

Finally, I decided to intervene. There's a list of postmasters available through the USPS website. Looked up the email addresses of the two postmasters in the respective cities. I sent messages to both stating that the zip code is in error and needed to be corrected based on the one I provided. Actually, if anyone took the trouble to look at the address on the package, they would quickly conclude that there isn't a Cupertino in Missouri (as far as I know, at least).

Both Post Masters were very nice and helpful. The zip code was corrected, and the package arrived about a week later.

 

Although CNG is not a favorite of mine that seems a reasonable request to make. However, I had a similar thing happen with Roma Numismatics and eventually it turned out that the package could not be located. They assured me they had it at their offices and when the time for mailing came it couldn't be found. I lost 1200 euros on that.

 

Wonderful idea! You can play Monopoly with your kids but using Roman Ases, sestersii, denarii, and aureii instead of paper money. For complexity you can also add in Greek coin exchange rates.

 

No Floor auction. Just internet....
John

 

Thanks

 

Well, well. Amazing coincidence? Or not? Here's the relevant timeline.

March 10: Package leaves France.

March 13, 2:39 am EST: Tracking update says Package has been
"Processed Through Facility ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)." I sign up for
email notifications of all further updates.

No further updates in next 10 days.

March 23, 2:30 pm EST: I file an online inquiry with Customs (CBP).

March 24, 6:41 am EST: Customs responds, telling me that the package was never held by Customs; they had nothing to do with it and know nothing about it.

March 24, 7:15 pm EST: I file an online Missing Mail Search Request with the USPS.

March 25, 4:55 pm EST: I receive an email with the following update:

"March 25, 2020, 4:44 pm
Arrived at USPS Regional Facility
COLUMBUS OH DISTRIBUTION CENTER
Your item arrived at our USPS facility in COLUMBUS OH DISTRIBUTION CENTER on March 25, 2020 at 4:44 pm. The item is currently in transit to the destination."

As I said, an amazing coincidence in timing! Of course, I'm very pleased (assuming that the package doesn't disappear again). I do wonder, though, why the package went from New York City to Columbus, Ohio on its way to be delivered to an address in New York City!

 

MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE CUSTOMS OFFICE:

 

That package had long left ISC by the time you filed a claim. Sometimes International Registered Mail tracking doesn't update. It's treated as First Class Mail domestically.

BTW, I'm in the Columbus area too!

 

But why would it go to Columbus in the first place, on its way from New York City to New York City?

 

Oh, sorry, I assumed its destination was Columbus. But to answer your question, after packages leave ISC NY they are routed to other sorting facilities and then to your local one. Normally Jamaica NY or Newark NJ are just after ISC, odd that you live in NY and they sent it to my neck of the woods!

The good news is that its out of customs and headed your way. My guess, look for it by Friday.