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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2674750, member: 19463"]Auctions vary in rules so it is important to read any materials offered stating the terms. Some are more well written than others. On potential problem arises with how bids are handled that are less than a minimum advance over the second high bid. Lets say a coin is started at $500. If on the first day of the sale a bidder places a bid of $2200 and on the last day of the sale a second bidder posts $2100. The rules clearly state that a minimum advance for lots over $2000 is $250. Does the long standing additional $100 win the lot or is that last advance not allowed because it fails to exceed the second by the full amount of a legal advance. That depends on how the software was written or whether a human intervenes to handle strange situations. We see some sales that allow bidding with cents attracting bids like $150.03 since that number will bounce a last second snipe of $151. What the rules are is nowhere near as important as being sure we understand what the rules are.</p><p><br /></p><p>I prefer sales that do not post or reveal what bids have been received on a lot. Attention is not drawn to popular coins and each bidder has to decide just how high to bid without knowing that someone else was interested at a dollar or few dollars less. When the sale closes, the high bid wins at one advance over the second bid. The second bidder could have bid more if he wanted to but he would not know if it was necessary until it was over.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, a JA sale here on CT tells us that one of our friends has bid on a coin so many of us won't bid him up. That hurts the seller. Someone else will say that if the lot is worth $10 to someone, it would be worth $11 to him. Sales that disclose the name of the bidder make this worse since some of us will not bid against Steve because he had to shovel 3 feet of snow but would be happy to bid up panzerman because 3 feet of snow would bring him landfall profits. If one of our Floridian members gets 3 feet of snow, I'd feel I should buy the coin for them.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie93" alt=":troll:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Over the years, I have participated in many variations on the sales systems. None are really better than the others if we allow for their time, place and potential number of participants. Things have really changed since the internet came onto the scene but that might be a subject for another thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2674750, member: 19463"]Auctions vary in rules so it is important to read any materials offered stating the terms. Some are more well written than others. On potential problem arises with how bids are handled that are less than a minimum advance over the second high bid. Lets say a coin is started at $500. If on the first day of the sale a bidder places a bid of $2200 and on the last day of the sale a second bidder posts $2100. The rules clearly state that a minimum advance for lots over $2000 is $250. Does the long standing additional $100 win the lot or is that last advance not allowed because it fails to exceed the second by the full amount of a legal advance. That depends on how the software was written or whether a human intervenes to handle strange situations. We see some sales that allow bidding with cents attracting bids like $150.03 since that number will bounce a last second snipe of $151. What the rules are is nowhere near as important as being sure we understand what the rules are. I prefer sales that do not post or reveal what bids have been received on a lot. Attention is not drawn to popular coins and each bidder has to decide just how high to bid without knowing that someone else was interested at a dollar or few dollars less. When the sale closes, the high bid wins at one advance over the second bid. The second bidder could have bid more if he wanted to but he would not know if it was necessary until it was over. For example, a JA sale here on CT tells us that one of our friends has bid on a coin so many of us won't bid him up. That hurts the seller. Someone else will say that if the lot is worth $10 to someone, it would be worth $11 to him. Sales that disclose the name of the bidder make this worse since some of us will not bid against Steve because he had to shovel 3 feet of snow but would be happy to bid up panzerman because 3 feet of snow would bring him landfall profits. If one of our Floridian members gets 3 feet of snow, I'd feel I should buy the coin for them.:troll: Over the years, I have participated in many variations on the sales systems. None are really better than the others if we allow for their time, place and potential number of participants. Things have really changed since the internet came onto the scene but that might be a subject for another thread.[/QUOTE]
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