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<p>[QUOTE="pprp, post: 7549889, member: 94602"]Of course auctioneers, bidding platform owners etc will invent rules that try to cover themselves from every possible situation. As far as I see reading this thread, there's a group of opinions saying you cannot and should not do anything; you should have used a representative. So on one hand you accept all dealers and auctioneers are trustworthy experts but at the same time advise to use an expert who is more expert and more ethical than the others.There's something rotten in the kingdom isn't there? Of course you can't expect an ethical expert (if you can find one) to be a traveling circus and visit 15 auctions per month all around the globe.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was quite negatively surprised by the auctioneer's response. Why ask the coin to be removed from the slab? The moment it is removed thee ngc grading is not valid any more. The coin has a sizeable flan crack and an edge chip, so the slab can only protect it from further damage in the transportation. The auctioner can remove the slab themselves if they can't see the surface through the plastic, though I wouldn't expect this to be the case, they knew all the way about the issues.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's not the first time I see auction photos creatively done to conceal defects. There's an auctioneer who systematically does it. I got 3 coins and all had issues. One I returned, the other I kept and the third I bought knowing the defect as it is very clear in the lockett catalog photographed and published 60 years ago. I probably overpaid to outbid someone who didn't know the provenance but didn't notice the nicely concealed edge cut either. I am not buying again from this auctioneer unless I get to examine the coin myself or find an earlier passing of the coin with an honest photo.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1302641[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="pprp, post: 7549889, member: 94602"]Of course auctioneers, bidding platform owners etc will invent rules that try to cover themselves from every possible situation. As far as I see reading this thread, there's a group of opinions saying you cannot and should not do anything; you should have used a representative. So on one hand you accept all dealers and auctioneers are trustworthy experts but at the same time advise to use an expert who is more expert and more ethical than the others.There's something rotten in the kingdom isn't there? Of course you can't expect an ethical expert (if you can find one) to be a traveling circus and visit 15 auctions per month all around the globe. I was quite negatively surprised by the auctioneer's response. Why ask the coin to be removed from the slab? The moment it is removed thee ngc grading is not valid any more. The coin has a sizeable flan crack and an edge chip, so the slab can only protect it from further damage in the transportation. The auctioner can remove the slab themselves if they can't see the surface through the plastic, though I wouldn't expect this to be the case, they knew all the way about the issues. It's not the first time I see auction photos creatively done to conceal defects. There's an auctioneer who systematically does it. I got 3 coins and all had issues. One I returned, the other I kept and the third I bought knowing the defect as it is very clear in the lockett catalog photographed and published 60 years ago. I probably overpaid to outbid someone who didn't know the provenance but didn't notice the nicely concealed edge cut either. I am not buying again from this auctioneer unless I get to examine the coin myself or find an earlier passing of the coin with an honest photo. [ATTACH=full]1302641[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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