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<p>[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 7549338, member: 90666"]I'm not a novice - 40 years collecting pretty high end coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Every coin has been cleaned - when silver coins come out of the ground they are typically covered in a very rough black pitted coating called find patina. The cleaning may be more or less vigorous and if very vigorous may amount to some smoothing but thats both common and subjective. I find the OP coin to be pleasant and all surface issues seem to be visible from the photo. I wouldn't have slabbed it. I wouldn't have attempted to return it as I see no reason, considering it was bought from a photo, and I wouldn't diss the auctioneers description. See nothing really they had to disclose. "For condition, please look at the photo" maybe as they say in eBay ads.</p><p><br /></p><p>What really beats me in this thread is why the discussion isnt about the Grand Canyon sized fissure. Now that detracts from the coin. But also clearly visible.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm actually ok with the surfaces and suspect a relative junior in NGC graded it and just wasnt sure. And I'm ok both with the auction description and their "no return" response. They are right. Sometimes you buy a coin and don't like it, and you live with it. So sell it. Don't involve NGC.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 7549338, member: 90666"]I'm not a novice - 40 years collecting pretty high end coins. Every coin has been cleaned - when silver coins come out of the ground they are typically covered in a very rough black pitted coating called find patina. The cleaning may be more or less vigorous and if very vigorous may amount to some smoothing but thats both common and subjective. I find the OP coin to be pleasant and all surface issues seem to be visible from the photo. I wouldn't have slabbed it. I wouldn't have attempted to return it as I see no reason, considering it was bought from a photo, and I wouldn't diss the auctioneers description. See nothing really they had to disclose. "For condition, please look at the photo" maybe as they say in eBay ads. What really beats me in this thread is why the discussion isnt about the Grand Canyon sized fissure. Now that detracts from the coin. But also clearly visible. I'm actually ok with the surfaces and suspect a relative junior in NGC graded it and just wasnt sure. And I'm ok both with the auction description and their "no return" response. They are right. Sometimes you buy a coin and don't like it, and you live with it. So sell it. Don't involve NGC.[/QUOTE]
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