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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 793706, member: 112"]As already said - color plays no part in the grade. With 2 exceptions - </p><p><br /></p><p>1 - the 70 grade on copper. For a copper coin to achieve the 70 grade it must have original mint color. </p><p><br /></p><p>2 - on toned coins eye appeal factors into the grade. And epsecially good eye appeal can bump the grade over what it would be on a similar untoned coin. This is true on MS and circ coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, the amount or original mint red color on copper coins typically plays no part in the numerical grade assigned to a coin. The color designation does however play a very large part in regard to price.</p><p><br /></p><p>And don't misunderstand, I am not saying that a coin must be toned for eye appeal to have an impact on the grade. Eye appeal always impacts the grade. I am merely explaining the only time that <u>color</u> can impact the grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>But if I understand your comments regarding luster correctly kanga - then yes, you are correct.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>Quality of luster is the single most important factor there is when grading MS coins. With circ coins, the amount of remaining luster comes into play. But how much, that depends on what standards you are using. With the TPG's (NGC & PCGS) the amount of remaining luster is less important. Under ANA standards, the amount of remaining luster is more important. And make note, I am talking about two entirely different things here - quality of luster and amount of remaining luster. And it is important to note that in both cases, if a coin is toned, the luster is often still there underlying the toning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 793706, member: 112"]As already said - color plays no part in the grade. With 2 exceptions - 1 - the 70 grade on copper. For a copper coin to achieve the 70 grade it must have original mint color. 2 - on toned coins eye appeal factors into the grade. And epsecially good eye appeal can bump the grade over what it would be on a similar untoned coin. This is true on MS and circ coins. So, the amount or original mint red color on copper coins typically plays no part in the numerical grade assigned to a coin. The color designation does however play a very large part in regard to price. And don't misunderstand, I am not saying that a coin must be toned for eye appeal to have an impact on the grade. Eye appeal always impacts the grade. I am merely explaining the only time that [U]color[/U] can impact the grade. But if I understand your comments regarding luster correctly kanga - then yes, you are correct. Quality of luster is the single most important factor there is when grading MS coins. With circ coins, the amount of remaining luster comes into play. But how much, that depends on what standards you are using. With the TPG's (NGC & PCGS) the amount of remaining luster is less important. Under ANA standards, the amount of remaining luster is more important. And make note, I am talking about two entirely different things here - quality of luster and amount of remaining luster. And it is important to note that in both cases, if a coin is toned, the luster is often still there underlying the toning.[/QUOTE]
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