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<p>[QUOTE="cmezner, post: 8371507, member: 87809"]One of the coins I bought recently was attributed as "Epeirote Republic, ca. 148 - 50 BC, SNG Copenhagen 128, laureate head of Zeus r. / Thunderbolt and ethnic within wreath".</p><p><br /></p><p>No doubt, I strongly believed, that this was the correct attribution. The seller who is very knowledgeable and whom I respect very much couldn't be wrong. So I spend several hours and days looking for all the SNG Copenhagen 128 in catalogues and resources on the web with no success. </p><p>Quite disappointed, I decided to look only for Epeiros, Zeus and Thunderbolt and problem solved. It turned out that the attribution is SNG Copenhagen 102, on the reverse the ethnic is the monogram of Pyrrhos and there is also the letter "B" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>The Kingdom of Epirus was involved in the Wars of the Diadochi and temporarily abandoned any ambition of expansion in Italy. This changed in 295 BC with the rise to the Epirote throne of Pyrrhus, who had great political ambitions. The Kingdom of Epirus was the first Hellenistic state to fight against the Romans in battle. Pyrrhus was decisively defeated at the Battle of Beneventum (275 BC). Having lost the majority of his army, he returned to Epirus, which finally resulted in the loss of all his Italian holdings. Because of his costly victories, the term "Pyrrhic victory" is often used for a victory with devastating cost to the victor. Pyrrhus was known for his benevolence. Pyrrhus's greatest political weaknesses were his failure to maintain focus and a strong treasury at home, as many of his soldiers were mercenaries.</p><p>After Pyrrhus’ death in 272 BC, Epirus became a minor power, first under his descendants and then as a republic.</p><p><br /></p><p>Æ 19, Kingdom of Epiros, Epeiros, ca. 297 - 272 BC</p><p>5.73 g</p><p>Price 1387; HGC 3, 271; SNG Copenhagen 102; BMC 44; Hoover HGC 271; SNG Evelpidis 1865</p><p>Ob.: Head of Zeus Dodonaios l., wreathed with oak.</p><p>Rev.: Thunderbolt, B above, ΠYΡ (monogram of Pyrrhos) below, all within oak wreath. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1485552[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1485553[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This example at wildwinds was the one that gave me the right attribution. Thank you wildwinds for all your great work!</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/epeiros/kings/pyrrhos/BMC_44.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/epeiros/kings/pyrrhos/BMC_44.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/epeiros/kings/pyrrhos/BMC_44.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Please share your coins that were wrongly attributed by a seller and your correct attribution or anything you think is relevant.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cmezner, post: 8371507, member: 87809"]One of the coins I bought recently was attributed as "Epeirote Republic, ca. 148 - 50 BC, SNG Copenhagen 128, laureate head of Zeus r. / Thunderbolt and ethnic within wreath". No doubt, I strongly believed, that this was the correct attribution. The seller who is very knowledgeable and whom I respect very much couldn't be wrong. So I spend several hours and days looking for all the SNG Copenhagen 128 in catalogues and resources on the web with no success. Quite disappointed, I decided to look only for Epeiros, Zeus and Thunderbolt and problem solved. It turned out that the attribution is SNG Copenhagen 102, on the reverse the ethnic is the monogram of Pyrrhos and there is also the letter "B" :) The Kingdom of Epirus was involved in the Wars of the Diadochi and temporarily abandoned any ambition of expansion in Italy. This changed in 295 BC with the rise to the Epirote throne of Pyrrhus, who had great political ambitions. The Kingdom of Epirus was the first Hellenistic state to fight against the Romans in battle. Pyrrhus was decisively defeated at the Battle of Beneventum (275 BC). Having lost the majority of his army, he returned to Epirus, which finally resulted in the loss of all his Italian holdings. Because of his costly victories, the term "Pyrrhic victory" is often used for a victory with devastating cost to the victor. Pyrrhus was known for his benevolence. Pyrrhus's greatest political weaknesses were his failure to maintain focus and a strong treasury at home, as many of his soldiers were mercenaries. After Pyrrhus’ death in 272 BC, Epirus became a minor power, first under his descendants and then as a republic. Æ 19, Kingdom of Epiros, Epeiros, ca. 297 - 272 BC 5.73 g Price 1387; HGC 3, 271; SNG Copenhagen 102; BMC 44; Hoover HGC 271; SNG Evelpidis 1865 Ob.: Head of Zeus Dodonaios l., wreathed with oak. Rev.: Thunderbolt, B above, ΠYΡ (monogram of Pyrrhos) below, all within oak wreath. [ATTACH=full]1485552[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1485553[/ATTACH] This example at wildwinds was the one that gave me the right attribution. Thank you wildwinds for all your great work! [URL]https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/epeiros/kings/pyrrhos/BMC_44.jpg[/URL] Please share your coins that were wrongly attributed by a seller and your correct attribution or anything you think is relevant.[/QUOTE]
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