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<p>[QUOTE="LaCointessa, post: 2753581, member: 87186"][ATTACH=full]631283[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]631284[/ATTACH] Several CT members sent me coins from their collections to help me learn how to determine the attribution of ancients. This is one of the coins that Victor Clark sent to me. As I try to attribute the coins I am sure I will make mistakes or omissions. I will post them as I accomplish them and I hope our CT experts will chime in and correct my errors. Thank you Victor!!</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my tentative attribution of the coin:</p><p><br /></p><p>It's a "Campgate."</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"><b>We call these coins "campgates" but the reverses may not depict campgates. I believe the "signaling tower" theory. There's a good article about this in an old Celator (Vol 18, No. 1, January 2004), Campgate Bronzes and Roman Fire Signalling, Murray K. Dahm.</b></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff00ff"><b>(</b>Thanks to [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER]<b>)</b></span></p><p><br /></p><p>Obv:</p><p>CONSTAN - TINVS AVG</p><p>Head laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right</p><p>Constantine II, AD 327-328,</p><p>Bronze</p><p>3.4 grams</p><p>19.05 mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Rev:</p><p>PROVIDEN TIAE AVG</p><p>campgate with two turrets, dot above right turret, ten layers, door handle or dot on door.</p><p>Mint Mark SMANTE in exergue</p><p>Mint: Antioch</p><p><br /></p><p>Question: Has anyone seen one of these coins with a 10 layer campgate?</p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 255)"><b>The rows vary on campgates, but yes I have seen 10 rows</b></span> - <span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 255)">Thanks to [USER=10613]@Victor_Clark[/USER]).</span></p><p><br /></p><p>What about the dot above the right turret which I don't see on other campgate (or city gate) reverses?</p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"><b>The dot you are talking about is actually part of the turret and is on both of them.</b></span><b><span style="color: rgb(0, 128, 255)"> [The dot on the door] is definitely a dot, being used as a control mark. Dots appear frequently in many different places. </span></b></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"><b>[T]he potentially confusing part though.. [a dot] may not be a control mark; but a centering mark. I have a page about these-- <a href="http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/" rel="nofollow">http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/</a></b></span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"><b>(</b>Thanks to [USER=10613]@Victor_Clark[/USER]<b>)</b></span></p><p><br /></p><p>These issues make me think *RIC:505 attribution which is the closest, is not correct.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="LaCointessa, post: 2753581, member: 87186"][ATTACH=full]631283[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]631284[/ATTACH] Several CT members sent me coins from their collections to help me learn how to determine the attribution of ancients. This is one of the coins that Victor Clark sent to me. As I try to attribute the coins I am sure I will make mistakes or omissions. I will post them as I accomplish them and I hope our CT experts will chime in and correct my errors. Thank you Victor!! Here is my tentative attribution of the coin: It's a "Campgate." [COLOR=#ff00ff][B]We call these coins "campgates" but the reverses may not depict campgates. I believe the "signaling tower" theory. There's a good article about this in an old Celator (Vol 18, No. 1, January 2004), Campgate Bronzes and Roman Fire Signalling, Murray K. Dahm.[/B] [B]([/B]Thanks to [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER][B])[/B][/COLOR] Obv: CONSTAN - TINVS AVG Head laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right Constantine II, AD 327-328, Bronze 3.4 grams 19.05 mm Rev: PROVIDEN TIAE AVG campgate with two turrets, dot above right turret, ten layers, door handle or dot on door. Mint Mark SMANTE in exergue Mint: Antioch Question: Has anyone seen one of these coins with a 10 layer campgate? [COLOR=rgb(0, 128, 255)][B]The rows vary on campgates, but yes I have seen 10 rows[/B][/COLOR] - [COLOR=rgb(0, 128, 255)]Thanks to [USER=10613]@Victor_Clark[/USER]).[/COLOR] What about the dot above the right turret which I don't see on other campgate (or city gate) reverses? [COLOR=#0080ff][B]The dot you are talking about is actually part of the turret and is on both of them.[/B][/COLOR][B][COLOR=rgb(0, 128, 255)] [The dot on the door] is definitely a dot, being used as a control mark. Dots appear frequently in many different places. [/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#0080ff][B][T]he potentially confusing part though.. [a dot] may not be a control mark; but a centering mark. I have a page about these-- [url]http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/dots/[/url][/B] [B]([/B]Thanks to [USER=10613]@Victor_Clark[/USER][B])[/B][/COLOR] These issues make me think *RIC:505 attribution which is the closest, is not correct. Thank you![/QUOTE]
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