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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;PaddyB, post: 3273242, member: 40017&quot;]I am pretty sure it cannot be a groat on this occasion. Elizabeth 3rd/4th coinage - 1561 to 1577 includes no groats.</p><p>Size always needs to be taken into account with dates and/or mintmarks as the size altered substantially over the years, as did the silver content in other reigns. That is probably why later they started putting Roman numerals on coins to indicate the number of pennies value represented.</p><p><br /></p><p>Added: Elizabeth Groats of the First coinage were around 22 to 23mm. I presume the same for 2nd coinage. No groats 3rd to 7th coinage. Eloi Mestrel milled groat again 22mm.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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