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<p>[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 4293752, member: 95174"]Manuel Ruled for 37 years 1143-1180, his coinage for the 12th century is by far the most abundant.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this group 33 coins belong to him. Even though this is not a hoard but just a group lot it is actually a good representation on how common his coins are for the 12th century.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>( Note, my average weights and sizes for coins in this post is taken from the Dumbarton Oakes Collection.)</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Now the majority of his coins in this group are ½ tetartera however that term might not be actually true. When Michel Hendy began his catalog, he noticed tetartera were different sizes, so he separated them to be full tetartera and half tetartera, he based this not on size but average weight, it was the simplest solution. However, this problem gets very confusing. Several of todays scholars think the coin had an involuntary value so one coin was worth the same as the other coin regardless of size or weight, I do not agree, it goes against human nature. Bigger coin worth more than smaller coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also for the first time in the history of the tetarteron it was one coin type minted in different sizes. A big version then a smaller version of the type, his fathers and grandfathers coinage minted ½ tetartera as different types of coins, creating a new design.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is SBCV tetarteron with St George SBCV -1975 , this group lot had just two. St George is an interesting figure because he was a Saint that fought. Like the early days before the empire became Christian gods were used to send different messages, the same is true in the late empire but Gods were replaced with Saints.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coins weights range from 2.78gm to 7.16gm sizes from 19mm to 24mm</p><p><br /></p><p>This example is not awesome but above average.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093025[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Size 21.42</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight. 3.0gm</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now for its ½ version , this lot had 14 examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>Average size and weight for these coins is .91gm to 2.26gm from 14mm to 17mm</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I took this one out of my group. Off center obverse but it was my pick from all of them.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093020[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Size 17.47mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight. 1.9gm</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now SBCV – 1976 , the lot had 5 examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>Average weights 2.55 to 6.54gm and size 18-25 mm</p><p><br /></p><p>My best example from this lot.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093021[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Size 24.22mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight 6.0gm </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The half tetarteron of this coin. The lot had 6 examples. ( average s weight 1.26-2.24gm and size 16to 19mm) </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093019[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Size 16.41mm</p><p><br /></p><p>weight 1.2gm</p><p><br /></p><p>The Monogram, Many of you have seen these before , Manuel had two monograms, this lot only had 5 examples of the most common monogram SBCV-1979 (Average weight 1.10 to 2.96 gm and sizes 14 to 18mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is an example from the group</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1093018[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Size 15.36mm</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight 1.6gm</p><p><br /></p><p>The last coin was in very bad shape, I did not photograph it was a SBCV- 1981. In David Sear catalog he notes two versions of the same coin because of Hendy's work with the coin, I think it was a mistake, no visual difference ( originally Christs Bust had a beard in one version in Hendy's 1969 book but by the time he wrote DOC IV he separated them only by weights.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The next emperor we will visit in the lot is Andronicus, a real evil fellow. Manuel did have a son Alexius II who ruled but no coins are known during his short two year reign, it is believed his fathers coins were continued to be minted. He was very young, several coins in the past have been attributed to him but they have been reattributed to other rulers since then.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BenSi, post: 4293752, member: 95174"]Manuel Ruled for 37 years 1143-1180, his coinage for the 12th century is by far the most abundant. In this group 33 coins belong to him. Even though this is not a hoard but just a group lot it is actually a good representation on how common his coins are for the 12th century. [B]( Note, my average weights and sizes for coins in this post is taken from the Dumbarton Oakes Collection.)[/B] Now the majority of his coins in this group are ½ tetartera however that term might not be actually true. When Michel Hendy began his catalog, he noticed tetartera were different sizes, so he separated them to be full tetartera and half tetartera, he based this not on size but average weight, it was the simplest solution. However, this problem gets very confusing. Several of todays scholars think the coin had an involuntary value so one coin was worth the same as the other coin regardless of size or weight, I do not agree, it goes against human nature. Bigger coin worth more than smaller coin. Also for the first time in the history of the tetarteron it was one coin type minted in different sizes. A big version then a smaller version of the type, his fathers and grandfathers coinage minted ½ tetartera as different types of coins, creating a new design. Here is SBCV tetarteron with St George SBCV -1975 , this group lot had just two. St George is an interesting figure because he was a Saint that fought. Like the early days before the empire became Christian gods were used to send different messages, the same is true in the late empire but Gods were replaced with Saints. The coins weights range from 2.78gm to 7.16gm sizes from 19mm to 24mm This example is not awesome but above average. [ATTACH=full]1093025[/ATTACH] Size 21.42 Weight. 3.0gm Now for its ½ version , this lot had 14 examples. Average size and weight for these coins is .91gm to 2.26gm from 14mm to 17mm I took this one out of my group. Off center obverse but it was my pick from all of them. [ATTACH=full]1093020[/ATTACH] Size 17.47mm Weight. 1.9gm Now SBCV – 1976 , the lot had 5 examples. Average weights 2.55 to 6.54gm and size 18-25 mm My best example from this lot. [ATTACH=full]1093021[/ATTACH] Size 24.22mm Weight 6.0gm The half tetarteron of this coin. The lot had 6 examples. ( average s weight 1.26-2.24gm and size 16to 19mm) [ATTACH=full]1093019[/ATTACH] Size 16.41mm weight 1.2gm The Monogram, Many of you have seen these before , Manuel had two monograms, this lot only had 5 examples of the most common monogram SBCV-1979 (Average weight 1.10 to 2.96 gm and sizes 14 to 18mm) Here is an example from the group [ATTACH=full]1093018[/ATTACH] Size 15.36mm Weight 1.6gm The last coin was in very bad shape, I did not photograph it was a SBCV- 1981. In David Sear catalog he notes two versions of the same coin because of Hendy's work with the coin, I think it was a mistake, no visual difference ( originally Christs Bust had a beard in one version in Hendy's 1969 book but by the time he wrote DOC IV he separated them only by weights.) The next emperor we will visit in the lot is Andronicus, a real evil fellow. Manuel did have a son Alexius II who ruled but no coins are known during his short two year reign, it is believed his fathers coins were continued to be minted. He was very young, several coins in the past have been attributed to him but they have been reattributed to other rulers since then.[/QUOTE]
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