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<p>[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 3152052, member: 21705"]I just purchased the first of these two to go along with other I have and can't find when or where I acquired. By chance, they represent the two die states of this variety. Or do they?</p><p><br /></p><p><b><font size="5">Sheldon/Noyes Obverse Die 21</font></b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>State A</b> - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse T (States A [Breen Variety States I, II & III] & B [not described by Breen] on the S-143.)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Perfect but maybe clashed under chin.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>State B</b> - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse T (States C [not described by Breen] on the S-143.)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Two very light cracks from denticles centered over T. Light crack from base of R into hair below. Very light crack from second denticle above bust through field parallel to bust to throat near junction with bust.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>State B</b> - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse S (State A [Breen State I] on S-142.)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Two very light cracks from denticles centered over T. Light crack from base of R into hair below. Very light crack 2nd denticle above bust through field parallel to bust to throat near junction with bust. Clash mark under chin.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]807687[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>State B </b>- Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse S (State B [Breen State II] on S-142.)</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><font size="6"><b>Sheldon/Noyes Reverse Die T</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Die State A </b>- Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Obverse 11 (State E) on 1797 NC-7.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Perfect.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Die State A</b> - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Obverse 21 (State B) [Breen State I] on S-142.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Perfect.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]807688[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Die State B</b> - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Obverse 21 (State B) [Breen State II] on S-142.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Heavy bulging STATES OF and upper left wreath.</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]807729[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Now to the question I posed initially. Does this holed example represent a new Obverse 21 State C rather than B?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]807710[/ATTACH]</p><p>Realizing there is damage at the hole and at 4-5 right of the bust, does the swelling at 2-3 in the obverse field indicate a new die state? Is that a crack from the hair above the JHF to the left foot of Y through the right side of Y to the rim above Y?</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a close-up of that area:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]807735[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The Reverse looks like the swelling has extended across left wreath to include the entire central core.</p><p><br /></p><p>ps Yes, I do see a scratch below that from the forehead to the rim. But that is PMD.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 3152052, member: 21705"]I just purchased the first of these two to go along with other I have and can't find when or where I acquired. By chance, they represent the two die states of this variety. Or do they? [B][SIZE=5]Sheldon/Noyes Obverse Die 21[/SIZE][/B] [B]State A[/B] - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse T (States A [Breen Variety States I, II & III] & B [not described by Breen] on the S-143.) [B]Perfect but maybe clashed under chin.[/B] [B]State B[/B] - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse T (States C [not described by Breen] on the S-143.) [B]Two very light cracks from denticles centered over T. Light crack from base of R into hair below. Very light crack from second denticle above bust through field parallel to bust to throat near junction with bust.[/B] [B]State B[/B] - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse S (State A [Breen State I] on S-142.) [B]Two very light cracks from denticles centered over T. Light crack from base of R into hair below. Very light crack 2nd denticle above bust through field parallel to bust to throat near junction with bust. Clash mark under chin.[/B] [ATTACH=full]807687[/ATTACH] [B]State B [/B]- Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Reverse S (State B [Breen State II] on S-142.) [SIZE=6][B]Sheldon/Noyes Reverse Die T[/B][/SIZE] [B]Die State A [/B]- Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Obverse 11 (State E) on 1797 NC-7. [B]Perfect.[/B] [B]Die State A[/B] - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Obverse 21 (State B) [Breen State I] on S-142. [B]Perfect. [ATTACH=full]807688[/ATTACH] [/B] [B]Die State B[/B] - Paired with Sheldon/Noyes Obverse 21 (State B) [Breen State II] on S-142. [B]Heavy bulging STATES OF and upper left wreath.[/B] [ATTACH=full]807729[/ATTACH] Now to the question I posed initially. Does this holed example represent a new Obverse 21 State C rather than B? [ATTACH=full]807710[/ATTACH] Realizing there is damage at the hole and at 4-5 right of the bust, does the swelling at 2-3 in the obverse field indicate a new die state? Is that a crack from the hair above the JHF to the left foot of Y through the right side of Y to the rim above Y? Here is a close-up of that area: [ATTACH=full]807735[/ATTACH] The Reverse looks like the swelling has extended across left wreath to include the entire central core. ps Yes, I do see a scratch below that from the forehead to the rim. But that is PMD.[/QUOTE]
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