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S-85.

Edited to add: Rarity-5

 

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Now are those Strike Throughs, PMD or Planchet defects? Sold as Strike Throughs, but unattributed, I can't see enough in the photos to confirm or exclude any of the three. Perhaps when they arrive I'll see more.

A noteworthy observation is the detail of the eye, nose and lips which seem to be much stronger than the rest of the coin. These are usually among the first portions affected by wear after the hair at the temple, but a strength on this coin. A little research indicates this strength is common for the variety as a whole.

 

S-85

 

Listed as 2 dateless large cents. From what I can tell, left is 1796 S-102 (R.4) and the right is 1802 NC-1 (R-5+). Not bad $45.

 

S-121. Seller said it was a plain edge, so hopefully I scored.

 

I hope you're luckier than me. I'm 0 for 3.

I'm with you on the reverse ID's. But I can't pick up any detail to ID the obverses. 3 pairings on the 96 and 4 on the 02.

 

The position of the T in LIBERTY on the 1796 narrows it down to a single pair. The space between the 1 and the hair curl on the 1802 is indicative of the Nc-1

 

I’m not entirely sure what I am looking at here. Of the extant varieties, I have narrowed it down to S-171, S-180, and S-196, with 196 being the most likely. However, there appears to be a die break over IC in AMERICA, which I have not yet found reference to. Any thoughts @Marshall ?



S-171



S-180



S-196

 

I don't know. The reverse State C of S-172 looks closer than these, but the obverse is all wrong. The examples have the CUD over IC but not as close to the R and a bit straighter.

 

I think this looks closer: S-172 Late Die State Noyes C. The obverse does not match the S-172. However; the CUD is developed over ICA but not back toward R. But looking closely, there is a crack from the CUD back toward the R which might fill in at a later die state. See what you think:


A far fetched possibility is a later die state of Reverse V with a re-pairing with Obverse 24. But that requires a lot of speculation on a worn coin. PMD over CA to account for lack of CUD? That's a pretty long limb.

 

Hmmm. Maybe.

I agree. That seems unlikely. When it’s in hand, I’ll see if it just a rim bump. If not, then it might be something special

 

I agree

 

Just a side by side. I got tired of jumping between images.

 

hmm. Interesting

 

There are more subtle similarities than I would expect such as a minor break from A to the right ribbon and similar flaws which individually would not be significant. The little bulge at the right side of A? Weakness/break from left side of I to dentil above right side of R which matches extension of the CUD. slight bulge at upright of R. At some point, there are too many coincidences.

It's not like interrupted die marriages are unheard of.

 

I have this one attributed to my satisfaction. Anyone care to give it a shot?

Hint, the reverse is key.

 

S-174

 

That’s what I got as well

 

Yeah. While there are several varieties with significant clash marks from LIBERTYs head, this cuts the numerator just a little differently.

 

Nope. Half of the “grips” were worn away. I got super excited when I pulled it out of the flip, and then I saw the divots on the other side.

It is an 1800. The “cud” is actually raised metal from rim bumps.

Today’s mail was super disappointing