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  1. C-B-D

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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    S-187 with the drooping berry above and left of O in ONE.
     
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  4. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I concur, but it's with little confidence since I can't pick up the drooping stem. Thanks for the assist Conder. I see no evidence of the later state die break on the obverse, so it would be an early state.
     
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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The stem is there
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  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Unfortunately my eyes are not at the moment. Hopefully a little laser correction on 1/13 will help.
     
  7. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Well-Known Member

    Best wishes for the new year. Also, the best with the surgery. Dave
     
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  8. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The Laser Polish went well. Took about 5 second per eye. The fog has lifted. Now I'll get contacts in a couple of weeks and I should be good to go.
     
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  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I couldn't help myself with this one. Great detail other than at the date. Scuzzy from corrosion mostly and perhaps some rim damage. But I paid AG money for a third S-99.

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  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    My first 1793. Rough but affordable. S-5 R4

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  11. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    That one would be a tough one to attribute! How were you able to narrow it down to S-5?
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I can see just enough to rotate the reverse to an upright position.

    1793 R-5.jpg
     
  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    First, it was already attributed. But second, I was able to confirm attribution by the R above the head. The Large Letters are unique (Wreath Cents) to the R-5 Obverse (6.) The leaves above where the date should be also show. After careful examination, the parallel leaves under E(R) can be seen which is unique to the Reverse (F.) F is shared with Obverses 6 (S-5), 7 (S-6), 8 (S-7) and 10 (NC-5.)

    It is from FriscoMint and I actually made an offer below his asking price, but chickened out when I saw 18 people watching.
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2020
  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    After a little research, this appears to have made the rounds lately as it has been for sale at Goldbergs, Saladmeasure Cafe and my source, Friscomint1793. I apparently sold at auction for $175 plus 20% buyer's fee ($35) or $205 plus tax to the buyer. Not exactly the bargain I thought at $350, but I intend to take it off the market for a few years.
     
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  15. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This is an ugly purchase, even with the detail, But the obverse looks like 1798 NC-2 while the Reverse doesn't match. In fact it doesn't match any 1798. But the corrosion could be misleading. Any thoughts are appreciated.

    1798 NC-2.jpg
    My biggest question is authenticity since they like to artificially age them, sometimes significantly. Being a new reverse by process of elimination and thus a new variety as well as die would be a long shot.

    But I will point out the width of LIBERTY and the positions of BER to their peaks and the rotation of the 7 as reasons for my attribution of Obverse 15. The distance of the 100 below the fraction bar and the short fraction bar along with the closeness/overlap of the bottom pair of leaves on the right are why I eliminated all 1798 reverses.
     
  16. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I can’t help with variety but the corrosion looks very suspicious. It is too uniform on both sides and unusual in appearance. I own hundreds of corroded pieces and none have that look.
     
  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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    Top is the only known 1798 NC-2 without a die break above RT. Below is the subject.
     
  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I now have to consider S-161, which I ruled out as a possibility. My reason for ruling it out may have been caused by the corrosion. Reverse P could also be a possibility for the same reason. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.
     
  19. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I really like this one
     
  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I should have it within a couple of days. It's from Germany and it was held up 11 days there. Now it's in Houston so it should arrive today or tomorrow.
     
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  21. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Seller's Photos:
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    My photos:
    1796 S-99.jpg
     
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