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  1. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    Very nice pickup there Marshall.
     
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  3. C-B-D

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  4. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Thanks! And this one?
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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I highly recommend getting A Guide Book of Half Cents and Large Cents for your Cohen and Sheldon attribution needs.

    Step 1: the first 1 in the date is blunt
    Step 2: the fraction is 1/100
    Step 3: 100 is very close and the fraction bar is severely slanted (Reverse D)
    Step 4: LIBERTY is evenly spaced and centered over Liberty’s head. (S-216)
     
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  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I concur
     
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  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    One of the reasons I started this thread is because, as humans, we sometimes make mistakes. Obtaining concurring opinions serves at least two purposes.

    It increases the confidence of an attribution or opens up alternative possibilities.

    It also serves an educational purpose for both the novice and those seasoned collectors willing to be humbled by those with a new perspective, particularly those using new technology or with knowledge not previously considered.

    Examples are the overlay technology and those searching down increasingly skilled counterfeits.

    I owe a lot to both the seasoned collectors and those with new perspectives.

    Thank You
     
  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This is a very deceiving reverse. I initially thought it was a eureka moment. Then I followed up to discover it's secret.

    First thing is the obvious 1/000 fraction. Well it does not match any known 1/000 reverse so I looked again.

    Still looked like 1/000. That had to be one, just look at it. Then I looked at other diagnostics and discovered it's actual attribution. It's a S-216. But that's not a 1/000 fraction.

    I looked more closely again and postulate the corrosion and coloring are just doing an excellent job of mimicking the first 0.

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    This is yet another cautionary tale to look closeley at even the obvious diagnostics.
     
  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I attributed this as S-124 R5+.
     
  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the help!
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  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Reverse of 95? Sheldon #? Thanks so much.
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  15. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I speculated on whether this is a new Die State/Stage VII of S-167 over a year ago when I was focused on the Strike-through. While updating my photographic record, I noticed the proverbial snake in front of me. I think this photo shows a new crack and the initial stage of a CUD formation from the State I crack to a new crack left of 9.

    What do you think?

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  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Here are other photos of the coin.

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  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It is definitely a later stage than anything i can find.
     
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  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

  21. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The first is Obverse 19, but the reverse is unattributable. There are 4 knows pairings with two common and two extremely rare.

    The second is S-174 with it's diagnostic clash through the fraction and at the ribbon.
     
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