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  1. HoledandCreative

    HoledandCreative Well-Known Member

    Great find!
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    And another 96 NC-4 is found, congratulations. (I'd probably try and make you an offer for it but I already have one.)
     
  4. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I'd be interested if you want to let it go, Marshall:).
     
  5. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I don't know whether to be happy or sad as I set the price on this one. I couldn't really afford my $505 bid, but this was particularly desirable as an extremely rare die state (I) without any evidence of a CUD left of L) of an R4+ variety S-171.) In fact, my search for another only lead me to Noyes use of this coin to show his obverse die state A (Breen I.)

    S-171 I Obverse.jpg S-171 I Reverse.jpg

    This is Noyes 21937. But the odd thing is he does not list it in his condition census which goes down to Net VG10. Even with some dings which aren't too distracting, this should be at least a net F15.
     
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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    One of the easiest of the 1800s, but also one of the rarest. I have it on good authority that it just makes the condition census for the variety. Anyone want to take a stab?

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  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    S-210 Noyes Die State C/F

    This must be the most common die state and is the same as my three, but all are AG3/Fr2.

    Key markers are HWH under upright of R/SHWH under upright of E and I rotated clockwise. Confirmed by the die break from just above the JHF and the rim at 3 O'Clock and back through R to the rim above E.
     
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  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Need some help with this one. Can't even figure out if it is style 1 or style 2 hair.
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  9. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I concur. The obverse CUD is similar to the CUD on S-223 of 1801.
    S-223 (VI).jpg
     
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  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I picked this up tonight. Another rare variety with graffiti.
    S-111.jpg
     
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  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Wow! An unexpected double tonight. This is another 1796 with nicer surfaces than usual.
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  13. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Shame for the grafitti, although I personally like the touch of it.
     
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  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The weakness of the reverse may be partially related to die sinking of the late die state. This Reverse was used with a haphazard pairing of obverse dies. All of the varieties it is used on were used early in the reverse die's life. It is lapped and the right ribbon stem no longer touches the knot which indicates a later use of the reverse die. Many of the lower grades show excessive "wear" for the grade at ONE to OF.

    Notice both the S-111 and the S-108 show this excessive "wear" and are both later die states as indicated by the disconnected right ribbon stem.
     
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  15. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    S-111 is really quite scarce. Nice find.
     
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  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Wouldn't be an improvement over the one I already have. Besides I'm broke as well. Finished my set of chain cents this past weekend. Picked up an S-1 G-4 Net AG-3.
     
  18. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Thank you for the link, Marshall.
    I am sure somebody here will be interested in this scarce variety.

    I was fortunate to find this S-82 many years ago at a very good price.
    1796 cent S-82 OBV1 n smaller better - 1.jpg 1796 cent S-82 REV1 n smaller better - 1.jpg
     
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  19. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I always like your finds. I already had one similar to the one on the link. It comes with it's own tomb.
    It's a straight grade G4, but need a better picture. I would probably argue if I were buying that the reverse is too weak for G4,

    I have trouble taking good photos through tombs.


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  20. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Alright, so I finally got around to imaging those new Braided Hair Large Cents of mine and wondered if anybody here has any better idea than I do on their varieties!

    1842
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    1854
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    1849
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    I hope this images are good enough to depict which variety they are!

    Soren.
     
  21. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Late dates are not my strength, but if someone else hasn't helped by the time I'm finished with my house remodeling and have access to my Noyes Late date books, I'll try.
     
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