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I just found my receipt for 3/15/17 for the last time I joined and I also joined again yesterday.

I'm sure there was another time before 2013 when my last computer crashed and wiped out my data.

 

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I can't let this one go with simply not identifiable. It's close, but I think there IS enough there. Is this the same variety?

 

My earlier attempts to show a Mule of dies found on more common varieties was not too good. Here is another attempt.

This is the Mule:

The Obverse photo is the same as before with a close up of the date. I was not able to improve the photo that I used to purchase the coin so I offer it here until such time as my photographic skills improve.

My attempt with the reverse came out pretty well and I offer it here. You'd think you could just flip it over and get the Obverse right, but alas, it doesn't work like that.

 

Final piece of the membership puzzle. I joined between the last issue of 2009 and the January issue of 2010 since I have the 6 issues of Penny Wise in 2010 including a submital of an edge study on page 260 where I was informed by Dan Trollen that the study had been discontinued.

I had completely forgotten it.

 

Correction. That was page 280.

 

I’m not the best to identify but the last zero seems farther away from the bust. Or the corrosion is playing tricks with my remaining eyesight.

 

I really need an overlay. The corrosion is playing tricks, which is why it's at the edge of attributability. I'd draw in reference lines, but I'm not sure where to place them.

 

PW is in the mail and available on line for EAC Members Marshall- article is very well done and it's great to see you get the press you deserve for this!

Would be great to meet if you have the opportunity to visit my home town of Dayton, OH where this year's Convention is being held next month.

 

I'd love to visit with you should the opportunity arise. I really can't afford to come right now, but I'm trying to find a way to justify it anyway.

I'm still having problems accessing EAC membership privileges online which is what put me off last time. I hope this time I can figure it out. But it has to be simpler than a smart phone or I'm toast.

 

Sent you a message Marshall.

 

I have the same problem, can't access the member portion of the website.

 

I was able to get in now.

 

I hope those of you near Dayton were able to attend the EAC Convention and I'm looking forward to hearing how it went.

 

Went and had a real good time. Thursday was a LONG day for me I got up Wed morning at 6:00 AM to get some work done on a club newsletter some run some errands, laundry, and prep for the weekend. Got stuck at the shop by a rainstorm. y good motorcycle is in the shop and my other one has the fluke of not starting when the humidity is over about 85%. Was stuck there until the guy I was going to Dayton with showed up at 11:30 Thursday morning. Got to Dayton and checked in. went down to the Hospitality dinner and it was good, Roast beef, fried chicken, fish, roll, mashed potatoes, mac and cheese and some other items.

7 PM on to the Happenings. I dropped by the half cent and large cent happenings, but spent most of the evening at the Colonial Happening. Usual introductions (I found it odd, it was a fairly good sized group with a very varied selection of things people collected, but no one in the group collected Vermonts), and then looked at some really nice colonials that people brought. Saw a new book that the C4 group published recently on the different families of counterfeit British half pence (vol one). It look interesting so I have a copy on order. Finally got back to the room and got to bed about 1 AM, a 41 hour day.

Friday, Up at 8 AM, breakfast buffet in the hotel restaurant, and at 10 Am down to the educational presentations. Spent almost all day there. EAC is trying to start a publications project similar to what C4 does publishing research produced by the members. Brad Karoleff had a talk connecting pepper corns, the mountain of silver at Potsoi, Peru, and mint Engraver John Reich. Mark Borckhardt discussed the 50 year history of EAC. Ed Fuhrman told the story of the discovery of the new 1795 C-6c half cent struck on a small letters lettered edge planchet from early 1794, and on another 1795 C-6a that shows a a single world from a large letter planchet. Then we had the video by John Kleesburg of the story of Dr Sheldon and the switching of the cents in the ANS and Clarke collections, with Ted Naftzgers involvement. There was also some discussion from members who were involved with the investigation. Finally at 4 PM I got to spend an hour on the bourse floor. Got to see some nice things, and paid a hefty chunk of what I owed to Steve Ellsworth.

Back to the hotel room, ordered in a pizza for supper, and the at 7PM back down to the meeting room for a remembrance of Del Bland. Many stories of the man, a true giant (literally, he was 6 foot 5) in the hobby. To make it even better his two sons were there and they told stories of traveling with him while he was researching the condition census coins and pedigrees. Dan's archives and notes, some 22 bankers boxes of them, are now at the ANS and available to researchers. (Due to privacy concerns for people mentioned in the files all work has to be done at ANS and no pictures or copies of the notes can be made.) Back to the room and worked on my computer to 3 AM then off to bed.

Saturday was pretty much a repeat of Friday except skipped breakfast and started at 9 AM at the C4 general meeting. The educational presentations again. John Wright on stories of his early years as he traveled and cherry picked. Bill Eckberg on half cent type collecting. Beth Deisher speaking on the problem of counterfeits and the group she is working with to try and rein in the problem. They have a group of over 90 experts around the country who are working withthe secret Service, Customs Agents and Homeland Security training them what to look for and providing experts who can examine coins they inspect coming in. Customs can't seize the coins unless an expert examines them and declares them counterfeit. This group is working to provide those declarations. Chuck Heck and David Huang on What every new EACer needs to know, but it turned more into a demonstration of how numismatics, at least the business side, is alive and VERY active in groups online.

Another hour on the floor, and back to the hotel room for another pizza.

7:30 THE SALE! It moves fast, 3 hours and 35 minutes from start to finish with a half our break in there to do 351 lots, 117 lots an hour. Not as fast as Denis Loring used to do but a very respectable pace. I had hoped that luck and low prices might strike two years in a row, and I was partially successful. I missed out on the 1793 S-1 I had my eye on. It closed as a pass lot at $2900. There were a couple of 1794's I could have used and afforded, but they were common varieties so I decided to let them go and focus on some other rarer lots I had my eye on. Up came the first one a 1797 NC-1. I have been kicking myself ever since the sale saying i SHOULD have stayed in and gone higher. I dropped out at $420 and it sold for $440. A few lots latter came the next target, an 1801 NC-3, SUCCESS this one was mine at $400+the 15%. My sixth NC! Yes it has a counterstamp, but when you are dealing with an R-6 coin I don't really care. The rest of the sale was just an after thought for me. Didn't go after anything else even though I had my eye on some of the nice late dates. (I've been thinking about a date set in AU or better, brown with nice surfaces.) One item of interest, an 1803 S-264 just a little better than the one I got last year for $550 went for $2800+juice. Still well below guide price. Back to the hotel for another late night on the computer.

Sunday morning the EAC general meeting at 9AM when down to what was left of the bourse. Most of the dealers were gone or packing up. I had wanted to pick up a copy of Michael Demling's Massachusetts attribution guide but he was already gone. I'll have to order one and have him ship it. Hung around until close to check out time at the hotel and then we left for home.

Next year is in Pittsburgh and the person I rode with is planning to go so I guess I will be there too. Time to start saving money. I'll have Steve paid off before then so I should have deeper pockets for next years sale.

2021 will be in Washington DC, and 2022 is in St Louis. With luck I'll make those as well.

 

Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations on the 1801 NC-3.

 

That is a very comprehensive and interesting report on the EAC Convention and Sale.
I had also thought about participating in the auction, but I am always hesitant because of the need to ship any eventual wins of mine to Europe and the trouble that entails. It is a pity because some of the '94's looked really interesting. Maybe one day I can attend in person and meet the people, and just enjoy a "Copper" experience.

 

I just went to the Denver Coin Expo the other day and picked up 3 Braided Hair Large Cents: 1842, 1849, and 1854. I've never owned any of this type but saw some good deals and jumped on it! Maybe you guys can help me attribute them to their Newcomb varieties?

 

Put them out there

 

I just picked this up unattributed on eBay. It will be my second of this variety. I really wasn't in the market, but couldn't pass it up.



This is my other of this variety:



This is my 3rd NC double to go along with my 1797 NC-5s and my 1803 NC-1s.