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I just picked this up. It is the scarce one among common folk.



The die State is not discernible since the marker is the top of TATE, UNLESS the broken S is from the die and not PMD. This would make it a new die state (I) and also explain why they changed Reverse dies.

 

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Mistake. Forgot the photos.

 

This is a late die state S-247. It appears the E/C die Stage/State was struck with the dies axially misaligned unlike earlier die state/stages. The die crack at U is still light, so an early E/C.

 

One significant event of 1800, the year of that Liberty Cent - U.S. President John Adams becomes the first President of the U.S. to live in the Executive Mansion (later renamed the White House).

 

I'm wondering how much I should spend on a generic basil state R5- variety when I already have three better. I used one which might have been a bit over priced. $100 for any identifiable R5 and $200 for any identifiable R6.

 

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What is going on here?

 

I'm sorry. eBay is now showing a "similar item" instead of the subject. I do not consider that an improvement.

 

Is this the SUBJECT coin? It closed yesterday.

 

In the banner, there is a hyperlink in the word “listing” that will take you to the actual listing. But I agree, it is bloody annoying.

Here is the coin in question.

 

I can only speculate that the edge might indicate it was struck on a foreign planchet. Perhaps like the Talbot Allum and Lee tokens which were used as planchets in 1795, mostly cut down for Half Cents, but also the NC-2s and I think on a S-78 I have.

 

It is most likely though just the result of some PSD done long ago. The "reeding" is crude and uneven.

 

That was my thought as well

 

I just picked this up. I agreed with the seller on attribution, but would like to see if someone can confirm it without any bias from knowing the attribution we came up with.

 

Looks like 132.

 

Thank you.

That's what we came up with. That completes my pairings of Reverse J (Breen S).

BTW, I also picked up a S-201 in what I believe is the latest stage of the terminal die state. Unfortunately it's a stretch to make Fr2, but I believe much of the reverse "wear" is from swelling and detail is from relative die sinking. It's posted in the Under $50 thread.

 

This is also a recent pick-up. I needed a S-193 and I thought this was one. But now I'm thinking it may be an early S-194 instead. Let me know your thoughts:

 

Yes I would go with 194, definitely not 193. On 193 the leaf cluster overlapping the base of the T in CENT is stemless, this one has definite stems.

 

I just made a change in my usual pattern of only spending on Rarities or high grade damaged coins. I picked this up for about what I paid for the NC rarities earlier this year ($530) and I believe it is properly graded rather than market graded. It is the S-191 and the Last of the Style 1 Hair, though it is the first of the 4 varieties using this Obverse Die 1. It is also the terminal Die State according to Noyes (A/D) though Breen has 7 variety Die States and this only includes one of his Die State markers for VII. (The die break running through the D of UNITED.)

Anyway, Let me know what you think. I think I'll be proud of it, even if it isn't an R5+.

 

I think the Die deterioration on the reverse was though to be wear and kept the usual market premium grade inflation down to the grade it should be.

 

A fairly rare example of TPG early cent grading actually matching EAC grading. I grade it F12 as well, with the obverse arguably slightly higher, and the reverse slightly lower. I am surprised they did not put a higher grade on the slab.
I think you will be happy with it.
I too look for rare varieties, but I am happy with R-1's and R-2's if they are nice (as long as the price is right!)