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  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I managed to get this one, but I can't seem to get the bargain. It jumped from $16 to $180 in the last second.

    S-156 Cbv.jpg
    S-156 Rev.jpg
     
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  3. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Perhaps I should have said a steal. $180 is a bargain compared to the cheapest one I could find at $795. This is definitely superior to that one and the one for $825. Of course, if the obverse was just a little better, it would be a $1500 coin.
     
  4. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I saw a 1794 1C in Boston the other day for $150, but I think it was too worn to get a Sheldon off it. So I opted out for the 1787 New Jersey 1C M38-Y R4. I got a pretty nice deal.
     
  5. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    ps I have intentionally left the attribution off to invite new attributers to try their hand at a relatively easy pick.
     
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  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Cherry picked this on a buy it now. It was labeled 1798:

    S-143 Obv.jpg S-143 Rev.jpg
     
  8. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I was up early this morning and was researching the Archives at Heritage and stumbled across this:
    1800 Obv 12.jpg 1800 Rev Q.jpg 1800 Obv 12 (2).jpg 1800 Rev Q (2).jpg 1800 Rev Q (3).jpg
    I believe this is a perfect Reverse which was speculated might exist in the remarks in Breen's Encyclopedia of United States Large Cents.

    It precedes Die State I which says this about the reverse:

    "Reverse cracked from the bases of CA to the ribbon and down through 00."

    This is the crack in question:
    1800 Q              Q S-206, S-207.jpg

    I have emailed Heritage to see if they could contact the buyer on my behalf and also see if their specialists concurs. I'd like to track down the coin to verify it's status as a new Die State. I'd love to be able to add something to the numismatics of the early date large cents by discovering a new die state.
     
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  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I have to agree it does appear to be a perfect die state reverse. It is definitely the 206 rev, and I don't see any trace of the crack
     
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  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I heard back from Heritage and they will pass along an offer for me. If accepted, it would allow me to proceed with verification by noted specialists who could assist in making the discovery known within the community.
     
  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Times up. This is a S-156 R5+ with a reverse of 95(96) which makes it special, even among the varieties.

    The S-155 is the most common Rev of 95 at R3 followed by the S-156 at R5+ with the S-176 also R5+, but slightly scarcer. Each have a different reverse previously used on Liberty Caps in 1796. S-155 uses 96E, S-156 uses 96B and S-178 uses 96A.
     
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  12. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Once I get a better older large cent can you help me with attribution?
     
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  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'd love to. But you don't have to get a better one. Most are attributable even in low grades.
     
  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This is another example of a low grade rarity that I just picked up. While corroded, all of the DATE and LIBERTY are visible on the obverse and the entire legend is visible on the reverse.

    S-100 Obv.jpg S-100 Rev.jpg
    The key to identification is the connection of the bottoms of TAT on a Reverse of 97 with the inner berry on an extension of the left leg of A(M). Also, the bottom of N is close to the top of the ribbon loop. Thus, S-100 R5.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2017
  15. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    These are enhanced images to make it easier to see. S-100 Rev.jpg
     

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  16. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I can't add back through edit, so here's the obverse:
    S-100 Obv.jpg
     
  17. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I dont have any large cent sheldons, but I do have a 1805 large 5 stems I half cent just subbed to ANACS can you help me with it when its back? Half cents are sheldons right?
     
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  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    As previously posted, Half Cents are Cohen numbers and I don't have any literature on which to help there beyond basics like if there are die cracks vs scrathes.
     
  21. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I have one large cent, but its past Sheldon years. very nice find if you ask me its 1835 Newcomb-19, purchased for $30!!! Its R6.
     
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