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<p>[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 3810089, member: 82322"]I found a direct link at <a href="https://www.academia.edu/16354608/The_Athenian_New_Style_Rome_Pontic_Coins" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.academia.edu/16354608/The_Athenian_New_Style_Rome_Pontic_Coins" rel="nofollow">https://www.academia.edu/16354608/The_Athenian_New_Style_Rome_Pontic_Coins</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Consider doing a follow-on including the months.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, this tetradrachm has month M. I looked it up elsewhere and got the year 98/97 BC. Your paper gives 95/4 BC.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1016126[/ATTACH] </p><p>ATTICA, Athens, Tetradrachm (16.5g), June 13 - July 13, 97 BC? Or 95/4 BC? 27mm</p><p>Obv: Head of Athena right, wearing crested Attic helmet</p><p>Rev: AΘ-E / NI-KH-THΣ, ΔIO-NY-ΣIOΣ, EMΒI (=<i>Athens, Niketes, Dionysios,</i> and <i>Embi-</i>) Owl standing right, head facing, on amphora; magistrates’ names in fields; gorgoneion to right; M (= month 12) on amphora, MH below; all within wreath. </p><p>Ref: Thompson 961 (Seems to match the obverse die for Thompson 961, reverse die of 958a)</p><p><br /></p><p>With the years from elsewhere, and Wikipedia on the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attic_calendar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attic_calendar" rel="nofollow">Athenian calendar</a>, and <a href="http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases-0099.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases-0099.html" rel="nofollow">this chart on the phases of the moon</a>, I got the range June 13 - July 13, 97 BC. If I take your dating of 95/4 I will have to go through this exercise again. It would be nice if you supplied a table that combined the magistrate/symbol, amphora letter, month name, and lunar calendar that year.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have an extremely worn bronze coin of Athens with the same symbol as the tetradrachm.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1016130[/ATTACH] </p><p>Athens Bronze 7.9g AE21, 98/7 BC</p><p>O: Gorgoneion, snakes rising from hair, snake bow below chin, sometimes with slight frown.</p><p>R: ΑΘΕ; Athena, wearing crested helmet, advancing right holding spear in right hand, aegis draped over left arm.</p><p>Lindgren and Kovacs 1543 </p><p><br /></p><p>The rationale for the date 98/7 is the belief that the bronze was issued the same year as the tetradrachms. Another nice follow-up would be to show a picture of each year's bronze alongside the tetradrachms. (I have never seen them lined up before. Catalogs usually illustrate first the silver, then the bronze.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 3810089, member: 82322"]I found a direct link at [URL]https://www.academia.edu/16354608/The_Athenian_New_Style_Rome_Pontic_Coins[/URL] Consider doing a follow-on including the months. For example, this tetradrachm has month M. I looked it up elsewhere and got the year 98/97 BC. Your paper gives 95/4 BC. [ATTACH=full]1016126[/ATTACH] ATTICA, Athens, Tetradrachm (16.5g), June 13 - July 13, 97 BC? Or 95/4 BC? 27mm Obv: Head of Athena right, wearing crested Attic helmet Rev: AΘ-E / NI-KH-THΣ, ΔIO-NY-ΣIOΣ, EMΒI (=[I]Athens, Niketes, Dionysios,[/I] and [I]Embi-[/I]) Owl standing right, head facing, on amphora; magistrates’ names in fields; gorgoneion to right; M (= month 12) on amphora, MH below; all within wreath. Ref: Thompson 961 (Seems to match the obverse die for Thompson 961, reverse die of 958a) With the years from elsewhere, and Wikipedia on the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attic_calendar']Athenian calendar[/URL], and [URL='http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases-0099.html']this chart on the phases of the moon[/URL], I got the range June 13 - July 13, 97 BC. If I take your dating of 95/4 I will have to go through this exercise again. It would be nice if you supplied a table that combined the magistrate/symbol, amphora letter, month name, and lunar calendar that year. I have an extremely worn bronze coin of Athens with the same symbol as the tetradrachm. [ATTACH=full]1016130[/ATTACH] Athens Bronze 7.9g AE21, 98/7 BC O: Gorgoneion, snakes rising from hair, snake bow below chin, sometimes with slight frown. R: ΑΘΕ; Athena, wearing crested helmet, advancing right holding spear in right hand, aegis draped over left arm. Lindgren and Kovacs 1543 The rationale for the date 98/7 is the belief that the bronze was issued the same year as the tetradrachms. Another nice follow-up would be to show a picture of each year's bronze alongside the tetradrachms. (I have never seen them lined up before. Catalogs usually illustrate first the silver, then the bronze.)[/QUOTE]
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