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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3100588, member: 112"]If you think that's bad try and figure out why the TPGs say that wear caused by this or that is not wear at all, but wear caused by something else is wear. Then try wrapping your head around the idea of how PCGS can say, in writing in their own grading book, that coins with wear can be graded as high as MS67 !</p><p><br /></p><p>The real answer to your question about what is damage and what is not damage is somewhat complicated but not difficult to understand once you know everything involved. To do it you basically have to understand the history of numismatics, what its rules and definitions are, and why the those rules and definitions were created in the first place.</p><p><br /></p><p>When it comes to damage, the things that make it damage or not damage are severity, location, the size of the coin involved, and cause, and in some cases probable cause because exact cause cannot always be determined while in others it can be. Those are the basic rules established long, long ago, and accepted by the numismatic community as a whole. And they applied to all coins equally.</p><p><br /></p><p>But then the TPGs came along and at first they followed those same basic rules, in most cases anyway. But then they started making exceptions, and throwing in other qualifying or disqualifying criteria like the age of the coin, the scarcity of the coin, and sometimes even the value of the coin. Things that never before had anything to do with anything - but suddenly did just because they decided to do it because that's what their customers wanted. And in some cases they even changed policies ans rules they had previously followed and adhered to for years.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I'm not surprised you're confused because unless you know all these things anybody would be confused.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3100588, member: 112"]If you think that's bad try and figure out why the TPGs say that wear caused by this or that is not wear at all, but wear caused by something else is wear. Then try wrapping your head around the idea of how PCGS can say, in writing in their own grading book, that coins with wear can be graded as high as MS67 ! The real answer to your question about what is damage and what is not damage is somewhat complicated but not difficult to understand once you know everything involved. To do it you basically have to understand the history of numismatics, what its rules and definitions are, and why the those rules and definitions were created in the first place. When it comes to damage, the things that make it damage or not damage are severity, location, the size of the coin involved, and cause, and in some cases probable cause because exact cause cannot always be determined while in others it can be. Those are the basic rules established long, long ago, and accepted by the numismatic community as a whole. And they applied to all coins equally. But then the TPGs came along and at first they followed those same basic rules, in most cases anyway. But then they started making exceptions, and throwing in other qualifying or disqualifying criteria like the age of the coin, the scarcity of the coin, and sometimes even the value of the coin. Things that never before had anything to do with anything - but suddenly did just because they decided to do it because that's what their customers wanted. And in some cases they even changed policies ans rules they had previously followed and adhered to for years. So I'm not surprised you're confused because unless you know all these things anybody would be confused.[/QUOTE]
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