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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 979271, member: 112"]There is a huge difference between something that is secret and something that most simply don't know. Of course it's not a secret. If you read that post that Paul linked to you will see that back in '02 the methods were well known among those who have knowledge. And it was known for many years before that. I personally used to know coin doctors that could AT coins that were 100% indistinguishable from NT long before the internet was even thought of let alone invented. And that was long before the term AT was even invented.  The market approved the methods NCS uses. When they work on a coin you cannot tell that they worked on the coin. That's why it was and is approved. As for what their methods are - no idea. I can only assume that dipping is one of them.   Well, we first have to realize that it is humor. That's not always easy to do. As for the issue of additional damage. Yes, some problem coins do have value. Diminished value from an example of the same grade that is not a problem coin, but value just the same. And that value can range anywhere from 20% to 80% of what the problem free example has. But if you do even more damage to the coin, then that value can be diminished even further. That's why coins should be left alone instead of messed with. By messing with them you only make it worse - not better. But there is something more important than that even - attitude. It's a way of thinking I guess, a lifestyle more than anything else. And that way of thinking is this - we as collectors are not owners of our coin, we are merely temporary custodians. And we owe it to the collectors who will follow us to not do harm to the coins for their sakes - even if they are already harmed. Think of it as being like the Hypocratic Oath - the first rule is - Do No Harm ! That's how coins should be treated.[/QUOTE]

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