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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 977350, member: 112"]A couple of things - unless you know for a fact that the coins to which you refer were in your father's collection from the time they left the mint - you don;t know if they were cleaned before he got them. So, it's possible that they had been harshly cleaned. Harshly cleaning coins has been going on for centuries.</p><p><br /></p><p>The other thing is this - there have been more than few examples of coins submitted to PCGS straight out of Mint Sets that PCGS sent back as having been harshly cleaned. So it is also possible that the coins you refer to were not harshly cleaned at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>But it is very important that people realize that just because a coin or group of coins have been in their family for 50 or a 100 years - and nobody in their family would ever harshly clean coins - they have no idea what was done to those coins by the previous owners. Especially since harsh cleaning was THE thing to do to your coins for hundreds of years.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now - in repsonse to your previous comments back to me. The reason for my comments to you about the coin you worked on is this - a problem coin is still a problem coin no matter what you do to it. Problem coins cannot be fixed, repaired or made better - by anything.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is important to understand however that not everything makes a coin a problem coin. Dark or ugly toning for example - that can be fixed by dipping the coin. Light verdigris - that can be fixed as long as the verdigris is light enough and has not corroded the coin. Those are just a couple of examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>But a coin that has been polished, harshly cleaned, whizzed, over dipped, altered, damaged, etc etc etc - those things can never be fixed. Once a problem coin - always a problem coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 977350, member: 112"]A couple of things - unless you know for a fact that the coins to which you refer were in your father's collection from the time they left the mint - you don;t know if they were cleaned before he got them. So, it's possible that they had been harshly cleaned. Harshly cleaning coins has been going on for centuries. The other thing is this - there have been more than few examples of coins submitted to PCGS straight out of Mint Sets that PCGS sent back as having been harshly cleaned. So it is also possible that the coins you refer to were not harshly cleaned at all. But it is very important that people realize that just because a coin or group of coins have been in their family for 50 or a 100 years - and nobody in their family would ever harshly clean coins - they have no idea what was done to those coins by the previous owners. Especially since harsh cleaning was THE thing to do to your coins for hundreds of years. Now - in repsonse to your previous comments back to me. The reason for my comments to you about the coin you worked on is this - a problem coin is still a problem coin no matter what you do to it. Problem coins cannot be fixed, repaired or made better - by anything. It is important to understand however that not everything makes a coin a problem coin. Dark or ugly toning for example - that can be fixed by dipping the coin. Light verdigris - that can be fixed as long as the verdigris is light enough and has not corroded the coin. Those are just a couple of examples. But a coin that has been polished, harshly cleaned, whizzed, over dipped, altered, damaged, etc etc etc - those things can never be fixed. Once a problem coin - always a problem coin.[/QUOTE]
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