AT or NT? 1855 Seated Liberty Quarter

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Artificial or Natural toning?
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'm thinking NT. Both sides have a soft natural look to them. The colors are not bright and bold but appealing.
     
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  4. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Probably natural, but this is retoning after a dip.
     
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  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The obverse splotches indicate that?
     
  6. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yes.
     
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  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    It does not matter because AT or NT, this color and pattern is what people like and there are a lot of them around.
     
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  8. stairstars

    stairstars Well-Known Member

    She's gorgeous...
     
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  9. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    My first reaction as well. Natural but not original skin.
     
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  10. stairstars

    stairstars Well-Known Member

    Yes, but how long ago was it done?
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    NT, I like it
     
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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    NT. Pretty coin.
     
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  13. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    Natural, probably from several decades in an album. If it was dipped, that would have been a while back.
     
  14. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    @physics-fan3.14, I have copied the obverse photo below with some circles. Are these the splotches being referred to? If not, what is the diagnostic that indicates an old dip and natural retoning? Not a challenge, I simply don't know.

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  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It has some nice album toning after a dip long ago. It's what the late Boston coin dealer, Don Romano, called "original now."

    There is nothing wrong with it, and I find it attractive. I hope that it has formed over a period of years. If it's happened in the last 6 months, which probably not the case, you will need to look into neutralizing it. Attractively toned silver is nice. Black silver is not.
     
  16. stairstars

    stairstars Well-Known Member

    Look how well it compares to this PCGS slabbed MS63 proof:
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  17. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Stars are more fully struck than the proof also- awesome.
     
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    But look at how.much more bold the drapery is struck on the proof than mine.
     
  19. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    For sure, can’t win every round when you’re fighting a proof. :)

    Personally I like fully struck centrils whenever possible on these but especially on proofs... just feels like they should be there.
     
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  20. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Those are a couple of them, but its far more extensive than that. Look at the toning above her foot. Around star 1. Around the top of her head. Around all of the right side stars.

    The toning isn't "smooth." It's splotchy and speckled. This can be a natural look, but usually it implies to me that its retoning after a coin was dipped.
     
  21. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    What are the chances that a coin from that era would remain bright white and then attain ring toning? Clearly had a bath and then retoned, probably in a Wayte Raymond album or something similar. "original now," as JM said.
    I have also taken bright white, dipped and cleaned coins that I purchased in my early young &dumb days, put them away in brown paper and they attained similar hues of toning.
     
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