At long last, I joined the Owl Club

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Finn235, May 7, 2019.

  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Nice coin @Finn235 !!!!! Everyone has posted some nice coins.

    Here is the coin that got me into the owl club:
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  3. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Very nice archaic owl, @scarborough. Pretty sharp details. Wish I can find one. Maybe sometime in 2020... :happy:
     
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Attica Athena Owl Tet.jpg

    My ticket to the club
     
  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

  6. Aunduril

    Aunduril Well-Known Member

    Very nice, I look forward to the day when I joint the owl club.
     
  7. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    Very nice example St... Finn235



    In 2013 Reid Goldsborough put this up, which is a great intro and reference point (@TIF - look again, later into the article). Among others he references Chester Starr who was a serious authority on these:
    https://rg.ancients.info/owls/
    Through the Ages
    Athenian Owls


    enjoy!!
     
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  8. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Thanks all and some lovely owls posted!

    @lrbguy reading through it again I suppose my coin is a Type C?

    More specifically, I have seen auction houses offer up seemingly classical owls attributed to specific periods before 454 BC - I have never seen an explanation of this before.

    An example:
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4674826
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Finn235 HOWLS for the OWLS:


    (They are all over the place, and different denominations!)

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    Athens Attica 454-404 BCE AR hemidrachm 16mm 2.08g Athena frontal eye - facing Owl wings closed olive branches COP 70 SG 2528


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    Teate Apulia 225-220 BCE AE Quincunx 12.5g 26.5mm Athena R Corinthn helmet - TIATI owl K 5 pellets - BMC HN Italy 702a SNG Cop 689 var RARE


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    Athens 340-317 BCE BC AE 12 Athena attic helmet R- Double bodied Owl with head facing E olive sprigs kalathos RARE BMC 224


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    SICILY Kamarina Æ Onkia 13mm 1.5g 420-405 BC Gorgon tongue - KAMA owl r lizard in claw pellet in ex SNG Münch 411


    Since it has been bankers' marked, it has probly tavelled well out of the Greek world!
    Athens Owl 16.8g  22x6-5mm Late Classical 393-300 BC, Sear 2537, SNG Cop. 63.jpg
    Athens Owl 16.8g 22x6-5mm Late Classical 393-300 BC, Sear 2537, SNG Cop. 63
     
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  10. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    Membership approved!

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    This is my first Greek Owl coin from 2011:

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    Greek Attic Athens Classical Owl Tetradrachm
    Obverse: Head of Athena right with beaded necklace, three small upright olive leaves on front edge of Attic helmet
    Reverse: Owl leaning right, head facing, olive twig with two leaves and crescent moon
    Legend AOE (Ethnic legend)
    Silver, 17.18g
    Struck c. BC 430

    :)
     
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  11. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    My (only) lowly Owl . . . (I love them.)

    APULIA Teate SNG Cop. 690 var.
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  12. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    @Finn235, I believe those are the Early Transitionals. The coin in your weblink belongs to Starr Group V B type, which has a different owl design, head turns back more, plus split tail feathers (Classical tails are no split). There are even earlier types, such as Starr Groups I to IV. I think the owl coins at this time period are more beautiful than the mass Classical types.
     
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  13. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    For years I basically ignored Athenian Owls having bought one back in the late 1980"s and figuring I really don't need another. However a few years ago I bought a copy of Flament's book on Athenian coins and ended up buying a whole group of them Here are a few.
    1. Athens Tetradrachm Circa 465 Starr V A
    2. Athens Tetradrachm Circa 454 Flament Group 1 early
    3 Athens Tetradrachm Circa 450 Flament Group I Late
    athens22 (3).jpg athens21.png athens29.jpg Naturally I bought all of mine before the big hoard.
     
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  14. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your very nice photos and description, @Terence Cheesman. Now I know my Early Transitional belongs to Flament Group 1 early (same spiral palmette, and owl). Upcoming thing to do is trying to find out which Flament Group my avatar coin belongs to... :bookworm:

    Your Starr V A is beautiful. Noticed Athena's eyes are narrower, plus the owl's head bigger. Wonder if that is the main difference between V A and others.
     
  15. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    What I can make out of the Starr Group V A's and B's is that the principle difference is in the reverse. In the Vb coins the owl generally looks like the early Flament 1 coins except it still has the three pronged tail feathers. The V A coins the head of Athena and the owls tend to look more like the Group IV coins except the obvious difference in the treatment of Athena's hair.
     
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  16. Yours are nicer than most I've seen in the recent hoard. Awesome pieces.
     
  17. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Stunning!
     
  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  19. In no particular order. 1 Early, 9 Late.
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    The Classical Athenian Tet is a must have for any Greek collector.
    - Michael
     
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  20. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    My next three Owls
    1. Tetradrachm Flament Group II 13/b
    2. Tetradrachm Flament Group II/III Obv. III 16 Rv. IIr
    3. Tetradrachm Flament Group III athens39.jpg athens42.jpg athens13.jpeg
     
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  21. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    So many Owls together in one place. Such eye candy! :happy:
     
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