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<p>[QUOTE="GSDykes, post: 2209337, member: 73321"]By not signing, you contribute to tightening the noose on basic freedoms. YOU!! Sure there are problems with this petition, but it can send a message, and it can assist collectors worldwide. It does send a message, maybe not the best, but your suggestion that all material recovered from digs, be documented, is not very reasonable. I have seen false documentations, seen false claims from archaeologists who misread the layer levels. Some have made fantastic claims of discovering Lot's cave, or Noah's ark, or Scythian burial sites, some have ascribed tombs to the wrong dynasty and wrong Pharaoh. How many "Jesus" coins have you seen, most are Byzantine creations, many are fakes, even with fake documentation. As mentioned above some digs done in the 1930s are still not fully documented. Even some of the Qumran caves have not been fully documented. The Ancient Biblical Manuscript Center, in Texas, is still finding and documenting many many ancient manuscripts of the Bible, which were unknown laying in easter European countries. Oftimes the owners have no idea where they came from. I have seen many ancient manuscripts sold on EBAY page by page, to maximize the sellers profit, and no information as to the provenance is known! All of the provenance data is lost or unknown. I possess actual manuscripts from the year 1200, and I have no idea where they came from (probably Egypt). Yes documentation is important, but it should be instituted after freedom is established, or fought for. And becoming a target, here in America by German authorities for signing a petition and making it known that you are a collector or dealer, is like expecting the FBI to arrest you for being in Dallas when Kennedy was assassinated. Pretty far fetched. I would be checking your clothing labels, who knows the tags may be tracking you. All sorts of fears, exist if one is paranoid. The men who signed our constitution became targets, but they still signed. Fear not!! </p><p><br /></p><p>Poor people in Greece will sell numerous artifacts, this I predict. I also predict that if petitions like this one fail, and the restrictions become law, then the black market will surge. As others have said, this petition may not be the best thing going, but it is a voice, a message, even to the German population, we support the Gemeindeland Volk. And the many Sammlers. At least I do.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure it is a good idea to document, I am not against that, but it MUST not be a demand executed prior to this petition. If the petition succeeds, THEN begin the process of educating dealers and collectors to document, but the petition comes first, can't you see that?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GSDykes, post: 2209337, member: 73321"]By not signing, you contribute to tightening the noose on basic freedoms. YOU!! Sure there are problems with this petition, but it can send a message, and it can assist collectors worldwide. It does send a message, maybe not the best, but your suggestion that all material recovered from digs, be documented, is not very reasonable. I have seen false documentations, seen false claims from archaeologists who misread the layer levels. Some have made fantastic claims of discovering Lot's cave, or Noah's ark, or Scythian burial sites, some have ascribed tombs to the wrong dynasty and wrong Pharaoh. How many "Jesus" coins have you seen, most are Byzantine creations, many are fakes, even with fake documentation. As mentioned above some digs done in the 1930s are still not fully documented. Even some of the Qumran caves have not been fully documented. The Ancient Biblical Manuscript Center, in Texas, is still finding and documenting many many ancient manuscripts of the Bible, which were unknown laying in easter European countries. Oftimes the owners have no idea where they came from. I have seen many ancient manuscripts sold on EBAY page by page, to maximize the sellers profit, and no information as to the provenance is known! All of the provenance data is lost or unknown. I possess actual manuscripts from the year 1200, and I have no idea where they came from (probably Egypt). Yes documentation is important, but it should be instituted after freedom is established, or fought for. And becoming a target, here in America by German authorities for signing a petition and making it known that you are a collector or dealer, is like expecting the FBI to arrest you for being in Dallas when Kennedy was assassinated. Pretty far fetched. I would be checking your clothing labels, who knows the tags may be tracking you. All sorts of fears, exist if one is paranoid. The men who signed our constitution became targets, but they still signed. Fear not!! Poor people in Greece will sell numerous artifacts, this I predict. I also predict that if petitions like this one fail, and the restrictions become law, then the black market will surge. As others have said, this petition may not be the best thing going, but it is a voice, a message, even to the German population, we support the Gemeindeland Volk. And the many Sammlers. At least I do. Sure it is a good idea to document, I am not against that, but it MUST not be a demand executed prior to this petition. If the petition succeeds, THEN begin the process of educating dealers and collectors to document, but the petition comes first, can't you see that?[/QUOTE]
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