Asking For Help With Greek ID

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by gsimonel, Oct 30, 2021.

  1. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I can't seem to get a positive ID for this Greek bronze:
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    Obv: Looks like Apollo, but could be Demeter or nymph?
    Rev: Bull butting left. Nike or tunny fish above? T above? IΓ monogram in exergue?
    20 mm, 6.0g

    Looks like something from Gambrion in Mysia, but I can't find anything that's 20mm; most are much smaller.

    Tauromenion, in Sicily has larger bronze coins like these, but they all have obverse and/or reverse inscriptions.

    Anyone have any suggestions?
     
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  3. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

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  4. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    Looks like syracuse Hierion, I think I see IE under the bull
     
  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Here's mine, its strong magnetic , what about your coin?

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  6. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    That does seems like a match. It looks like there's an obverse inscription on the CNG coin that doesn't appear on mine, but the T on the upper reverse matches up, and what I called an IΓ monogram is probably an IE.

    When checking for other examples I found that some have an inscription on the obverse and others do not. Could the writing on the obverse be the name of the artist who made the die?

    Nope. I just checked, and there doesn't appear to be any iron to speak of. But I still think you are both correct about Syracuse and Heirons II. Thank you for your help.
     
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  7. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    I have one of those, in fact two, and I remember having issues in narrowing down completely.
    On the example I mentioned the obverse inscription should be ΣYΡAKOΣIΩN
    My coin's condition doesn't help at all.
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  8. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Poking around a little more, I think the ones with obverse inscription say ΣYPAKOΣIΩN, Syracuse.
     
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  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    You beat me.
    Two points.
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My Hieron II has a phi and club above the bull. The obverse city name left of Persephone is weak and obscured by patina specks.
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